Rain Out in nasal pillows with heated hose

[Jangles]

Have water drops in nasal pillows each morning. Mask hose and main hose are dry. Using Climateline with hose cozy at 81 degrees and hung above my head with Hose Buddy. Humidity set at 3. Room temp is 65 degrees with relative humidity in room at 46 percent.

Is Climateline hose not working or is this unavoidable?

[Pugsy]

Probably the moisture in your own exhaled breath condensing in the nasal pillows.
Have you thought about maybe putting a little hose cozy on the short hose from the ClimateLine to the nasal pillows?
Gotta increase the air temp in the nasal pillows to prevent the air from cooling and releasing the moisture.

So...maybe increase the Climateline air temp in effort to warm the air in the nasal pillows..
or maybe use a little hose cozy on the short hose..
or check with padacheek.com to see if she has a barrel cozy for the nasal pillows.
or increase the bedroom air temp..

Sometimes all it takes is 1 or 2 degrees warmer to prevent the condensation.

[BleepingBeauty]

If all else fails, check out this "fix" for the problem you're experiencing: viewtopic.php?p=298845#298845

Good luck.

[Jangles]

Thanks. Will up the hose temp a bit and see what happens. Pad A Cheek does have a cozy if I can't mitigate this.

To be clear, the water drops are in-between the two layers on the part that goes in your nose. I illustrated below with the Pad A Cheek image:

[palerider]

To be clear, the water drops are in-between the two layers on the part that goes in your nose.

are those bits of water in between the layers bothering you (as in disturbing your sleep), or are you just curious about the situation?

[Jangles]

To be clear, the water drops are in-between the two layers on the part that goes in your nose.

are those bits of water in between the layers bothering you (as in disturbing your sleep), or are you just curious about the situation?

Curious mainly if Climateline is working. It's mildly annoying to have water blowing on my face when removing the mask. Not disturbing sleep that I can tell.

If this is a minor quibble about a normal occurrence I can certainly live with it.

[Pugsy]

I think just a minor quibble. If the Climateline wasn't working I think you would most likely get a cold shower spray out the vent holes. That's what I used to get when I didn't have a heated hose or I forgot to turn up the temp and it got real cold.

Sometimes there's just a fine line in those air temps in the nasal pillows where a little more and the air won't release the moisture and a little less and we get the water. Our own breath contains moisture and we fill up the nasal pillows with it every time we exhale. Even people who don't even use a humidifier at all have reported this happening.
It's just Physics in action. Probably if you didn't have the additional length from the end of the heated hose to the mask on your face via that short hose, it probably wouldn't happen. One the air leaves the end of the heated hose it will immediately start to cool and the ambient room temp is causing it. Now if you liked a temp like my mom who thinks house temps of 76 in the winter are cool then the chance of rainout is very small but those of use who prefer cooler ambient room temps just have to deal with the rain out.

I sometimes have little water now in the nasal pillows. Probably in the very spot that Padacheek shows. It doesn't wake me up though so I don't worry about it and if I happen to wake up things a little wet then I just give the openings of the nasal pillow a little flick with my fingers to get rid of the few drops of water.

Watch out in the winter if your ambient temps go even lower. In my house the ambient temps often get to the low 50s and I crank that heated hose up as high as it will go. I once accidentally turned the temp down instead of up and not only did the rain out noise and cold shower wake me up...it woke up my husband who was wondering what the heck was wrong because the machine was normally silent. It was a rude awakening for sure.

[palerider]

Curious mainly if Climateline is working. It's mildly annoying to have water blowing on my face when removing the mask. Not disturbing sleep that I can tell.

If this is a minor quibble about a normal occurrence I can certainly live with it.

there's a lot of moisture there, between humidification and your breath, it's not unusual for some to condense in the mask. you've got a length of unheated hose, then the mask cavity itself that's not heated, nothing that the climateline can do about that.

there's been reports of people who aren't even using the humidifier having water drops form in the mask.

the only way that you can tell if the climateline is working is to put a thermometer on it, and see if it's a little bit warmer than room air...