Battery backup for S9 AutoSet

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Battery backup for S9 AutoSet

Post by squid13 » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:59 am

How much time would you approximately get out of an 80 AmpHour battery,with and without humidifier, does anyone know?

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Re: Battery backup for S9 AutoSet

Post by HoseCrusher » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:31 pm

The problem with battery ratings is that the manufacturers tend to be "optimistic" with their ratings.

With that caution, your S9 draws about 1 amp without the humidifier and about 3 amps with the humidifier.

If we take 80 amp hours and divide it by 1 amp we come up with 80 hours.

If we take 80 amp hours and divide that by 3 amps we come up with a little over 26 hours.

To get the most life from a lead acid battery it is best not to completely discharge it. This means that you should reduce the number of hours by 30 - 50%.

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Re: Battery backup for S9 AutoSet

Post by idamtnboy » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:31 pm

squid13 wrote:How much time would you approximately get out of an 80 AmpHour battery,with and without humidifier, does anyone know?
Based on my experience I think you would get two nights, or about 14+ hours, with a humidifier, probably six or more without. That's using an inverter and the standard power brick. Might be a little more using the Resmed DC converter brick.

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Re: Battery backup for S9 AutoSet

Post by idamtnboy » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:37 pm

HoseCrusher wrote:The problem with battery ratings is that the manufacturers tend to be "optimistic" with their ratings.

With that caution, your S9 draws about 1 amp without the humidifier and about 3 amps with the humidifier.

If we take 80 amp hours and divide it by 1 amp we come up with 80 hours.

If we take 80 amp hours and divide that by 3 amps we come up with a little over 26 hours.

To get the most life from a lead acid battery it is best not to completely discharge it. This means that you should reduce the number of hours by 30 - 50%.
My experience is the S9 with humidifier draws close to 5 amps, thus you would get upwards of 16 hours from an 80 ah battery. A deep cycle can be drawn down more than a regular auto lead acid battery, but probably still best not to discharge all the way. That won't happen anyway with an inverter, or with the Resmed DC converter I think, because they will turn off on low voltage.

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Re: Battery backup for S9 AutoSet

Post by HoseCrusher » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:12 pm

I haven't measured the actual current draw.

I choose 3 amps from this document from ResMed.

http://www.resmed.com/us/assets/documen ... lo_eng.pdf

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Re: Battery backup for S9 AutoSet

Post by idamtnboy » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:10 am

HoseCrusher wrote:I haven't measured the actual current draw.

I choose 3 amps from this document from ResMed.

http://www.resmed.com/us/assets/documen ... lo_eng.pdf
As one can see from that doc the current draw varies a lot depending on the humidifier settings. That's why anyone wanting to use a battery and needs to know with some certainty how long it'll last needs to test their own individual setup.

In my case I use climate control on set at 78°.

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Re: Battery backup for S9 AutoSet

Post by squid13 » Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:21 pm

Thanks to everyone for your input it's greatly appreciated. I think I'll go with a 80 AH battery. I can get a deep cycle for $129, the 100AH is $179. If and when a hurricane hits again I can charge it off of my portable generator when it gets low. I've been without power for 2 weeks at a time from 2 different hurricanes since I've lived here. Short power outages from others, so definitely need a backup.

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Re: Battery backup for S9 AutoSet

Post by idamtnboy » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:56 pm

squid13 wrote:Thanks to everyone for your input it's greatly appreciated. I think I'll go with a 80 AH battery. I can get a deep cycle for $129, the 100AH is $179. If and when a hurricane hits again I can charge it off of my portable generator when it gets low. I've been without power for 2 weeks at a time from 2 different hurricanes since I've lived here. Short power outages from others, so definitely need a backup.
Check Costco. I bought my 125 ah deep cycle for less than $100, including core charge.

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Re: Battery backup for S9 AutoSet

Post by archangle » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:22 am

Be sure it's a "Deep Cycle" battery. There are Marine staring batteries, Marine Dual Purpose batteries, Marine Deep Cycle/Starting batteries, and Marine Deep Cycle batteries.

The only one to buy for this usage is Marine Deep Cycle. If it says Starting/deep cycle or dual purpose, it's much less desirable for CPAP.

Also watch out that it's 12V. You may see deep cycle batteries that look like they give you a lot of amp hours for the buck, but they're only 6V. If they only have 3 filler caps, they're 6V.

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