Hans Rudolph Mask

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:01 am

I'm not normally search-impaired, but I must be doing something wrong. I'm trying to find posts on Hans Rudolph masks, but I get 0 results when I type in "Hans Rudolph." What's going on? If someone could point me in the right direction, or, alternately, tell me what they think of the Hans Rudolph mask, I'd appreciate it. I've seen people say bad things about it on other message boards, but I'd heard there were a few people here that liked it. What's the consensus? (I realize all masks are highly variable based on who is wearing them, but I thought I'd ask anyway). Thanks.

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:12 am

I just tried searching "hans", without the quotes, and got a lot of posts.

Also got result for Hans Rudolph, again, without the quotes.

Could you by any chance be putting the search terms in the Author box, by mistake? That 's happened to me a couple of times.

O.

th · Post by th » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:31 am

I am sure Severeena will post on this mask. This is the mask she uses every night.(I think)......... She can tell you more on this mask than I can. And I think this is her favorite mask.I did not have any luck with it. I Still have it...The mask works great up to around pressure 7 or 8 & then a major blowout with leaks everywhere (IMO)I hate the headgear that comes with this mask and I blame the headgear for most of the problems for me.....These are only my opinions.
th

BP · Post by BP » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:17 pm

It's wierd, for some reason, unlike almost every other search engine, double quotes mean nothing to this engine. So don't bother, you can't search for an exact string with this engine. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I have experienced.

-BP

neversleeps · Post by **neversleeps** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:03 pm

Use the word and.

When searching for something that contains more than 1 word, use the word and in between each word.

Or the + symbol.

Hans and Rudolph
or
Hans + Rudolph

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:42 pm

I'm the OP. Ozij, that seems entirely possible, since I tried it just now and it worked fine. It's crazy what a little sleep deprivation does to a person.

Severeena · Post by **Severeena** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:21 pm

I love the Hans Rudolph.

I can PM you the web site or post the web site here if you need it.

I am so please with the way this mask is doing for me.

I am getting Excellent and a 0.14LS on the leakage of my APAP.

If you need help let me know.

I can lay on my side and my hubby doesn't even know when I am facing him.

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elliejose · Post by **elliejose** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:01 pm

Sharon, what's your pressure?

CollegeGirl · Post by **CollegeGirl** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:46 pm

Hi Sharon,
I'm the OP on this thread. Thanks for the reply. Can I ask what your pressure is? I'm just concerned about leakage. Thanks!

NOzsnAZ · Post by **NOzsnAZ** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:01 pm

Sharon posted her numbers under another thread named appropriately enough "last night's numbers"

Dunno how to post a link to it so here are her numbers:

Pressure 10.0
Leakage 0.14LS
AHI 6.8
AI 1.0
HI 5.8

NOzsnAZ

CollegeGirl · Post by **CollegeGirl** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:46 pm

Ooh, missed that, sorry. I run about an 11 or a 12, perhaps the Hans Rudolph might be worth a try.

Oh, I guess it would help (or at least entertain? ) if I let you guys in on my little "saga."

Both of my sleep studies were mostly unsuccessful. I just can't sleep hooked up to all those wires, and I wasn't allowed to sleep on my stomach, which is what I'm used to. I asked for but was not allowed to take a sleep aid prior to the start of the test. I spent all of two minutes in REM in the first study, and 30 minutes in the titration study. Not really enough for any kind of anything. Nevertheless, the sleep doc was INSISTENT that he was positive I should have a pressure setting of 6.

I started out with a nasal mask (a Respironics comfort something [you know, the sucky cheap ones the DMEs pawn off on unsuspecting newbies ]). My pressure was set to 6. After giving it three weeks (the old college try) and still feeling like I was breathing through a towel, I got my GP to RELUCTANTLY bump me up to an 8. I still felt like I was breathing through a towel, and was dead tired, all the time. I would wake up in the morning, like I do every day, with the classic sign of mouth-breathing...drool on the pillow. I know, ew, but it's proof I mouth-breathe. (But I mouth-breathe during the day, too, so why would the night be different?)

So, after reading the forums, I decided to ask for a Full Face Mask. I was given the F&P HC431. Still, no better. FINALLY I went home for the summer and talked my GP at home (in a different state) into Rxing me an autopap. What a world of difference! I got the software & card reader, too, so I would be able to see what was going on. Turns out the auto lingers around 11 or 12, depending on the night. Gee, you think my titration was off just a bit? No wonder I felt smothered!

So, now I know I've got the right machine - but the mask is driving me nuts! I'm a stomach sleeper/mouth breather/small-faced person (being female and all) and that apparently is a death sentence for finding the right mask I've tried a special double-edged pillow I found on another site (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention it or not), and it doesn't seem to have helped. No matter which way I position it, it still pushes on my FFM. Perhaps it's a godsend to people with nasal interfaces, but it's not helping me much. And my mask is awful - if I wear it just loosely enough that it doesn't leave marks, it leaks and wakes me up a LOT. If I tighten it so that it can't leak, it has to be SO tight that it rubs my face raw (I woke up last week with my chin bleeding. At that point I decided leaks were better).

I've tried going back to Apria (I have several pet names for them, as I'm sure you all do, too ), and they referred me to a sleep specialist because EVERY FFM they had wouldn't fit me without leaking. *Sigh.* And I couldn't get in to see the sleep specialist til Nov. 18th (and I made the appt back in September). Things have gotten so bad that my GP is going to try to intervene on my behalf and get me a quicker appointment, but in the meantime, I'm seriously at an impasse. I'm missing classes and forgetting assignments and just generally really screwing things up. I know it's not my fault, but at a top-20 liberal arts college, they don't really cut you any breaks.

If you've read this far, wow! Thanks!

Severeena · Post by **Severeena** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:47 pm

Thank you for posting those numbers to answer their questions.

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:14 am

So, now I know I've got the right machine - but the mask is driving me nuts!

Hi Collegegirl,

You said you like to sleep on your stomach. The Aura (whoops...the "Everest", as it's been rechristened) is absolutely the best interface of all for ANY sleep position, including on one's tummy.

But, you say you mouth breathe. Are you able to breathe through your nose at night, through at least one nostril? If so, have you considered taping the lips shut?

Taping the lips securely shut is the only way (well, there is another way...the "DIY" mouthguard) I can control my mouthbreathing at night and be able to wear much more comfortable interfaces than a full face mask.

Some nights I use tape; other nights I use the DIY. Just depends on which I feel like using. But if I didn't use one or the other, I'd definitely have to wear a full face mask every night.

I used two different FF masks for almost a year before I got up the nerve to tape my mouth shut. Having experienced the difficulty in trying to get comfortable while sleeping on my side using an FF mask, much less trying to tummy sleep with that much mask on the face, I'd be willing to bet that your sleep is being well and truly disrupted by mask discomfort. Disrupted to the point that even though cpap may be stopping your apneas/hypopneas and keeping your oxygen levels up, your sleep is still being wrecked. No wonder you still feel like "ugh".

I don't want to encourage anyone to tape their mouth if the person himself/herself doesn't think that's a good idea. Or if they have nasal/sinus obstuction issues that would make it unlikely they could breathe through at least one nostril or the other all night.

For me, tape makes all the difference in the world in being able to sleep with nasal pillows interfaces that actually let me sleep, as opposed to traditional triangular "covers the nose" masks (or worse, a big FF mask) that push, shove, leak, dig in and otherwise interfere with getting comfortable enough to get real sleep.

The Activa is the only "traditional" mask that I can sleep in almost as well as I can with nasal pillows masks like the Aura ("EVEREST"..heheh) or the Breeze or Swift. Of course, even with the Activa, I have to tape my mouth shut, as it's not a FF mask.

Severeena · Post by **Severeena** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:41 pm

The sad part with us mouth breathers, we feel like we are suffocating with any part of our face shut off from air.

Especially those of us that have severe lung disorders that are causing the problems when we sleep.

Barnaby · Post by **Barnaby** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:21 pm

Hey College Girl......what is a small faced female look like

So, now I know I've got the right machine - but the mask is driving me nuts! I'm a stomach sleeper/mouth breather/small-faced person (being female and all) and that apparently is a death sentence for finding the right mask

What has that got to do with using nasal pillows?? Or a velcro chin strap?