Can Encore Pro read without erasing?

I have been able to get a copy of the Encore Pro software, but have a question. I've seen mention that it will erase data, but I don't want to do that, I just want to read it. Can you read the data without erasing it?

Debjax wrote:I have been able to get a copy of the Encore Pro software, but have a question. I've seen mention that it will erase data, but I don't want to do that, I just want to read it. Can you read the data without erasing it?

In my experience the software doesn't erase the data until you choose to do that... it shows you a screen at the end of the download process asking you if you want to erase the card or not... just choose "NO"

The only thing annoying with Encore Pro is that it create a "new Interaction" every time that you download the data from the card, hence recording duplicated data in the Database... What I do is delete my previous "Interaction" after review that my new one contain the same information. This maintain your database more clean.

hope this help
Miko

Debjax wrote:I have been able to get a copy of the Encore Pro software, but have a question. I've seen mention that it will erase data, but I don't want to do that, I just want to read it. Can you read the data without erasing it?

By default Encore Pro will erase your card, it is the erasing of the card which creates new interactions. I don't have time right now to type out instructions but I am sure a search will reveal the needed instructions.

If you need the data for your doc or dme don't read the card until you are certain Encore has been correctly set up.

[quote="GumbyCT"By default Encore Pro will erase your card, it is the erasing of the card which creates new interactions. [/quote]

Gumby.. maybe the software act different depending of the version?... I do have Encore Pro 1.6.22 and it doesn't delete the data by default ... maybe in the newer versions the system act like you describe

DEBJAx: What Software version do you have?

Debjax wrote:Can Encore Pro read without erasing?

The answer is yes, when setup to not erase.

Go to Preferences > System Settings make sure there is a check mark on -
"Prompt to keep data on Smartcard after download"
and another check on "Always Perfrom this action" .
Also be sure USB is selected under "Smartcard Reader" if that is what you have.

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I switched back to Encore viewer...simple,easy and just as interactive. There really is nothing special to Pro that is going to make a change to how you read or interpret your data.

Folks, am I wrong?

Fredman wrote:I switched back to Encore viewer...simple,easy and just as interactive. There really is nothing special to Pro that is going to make a change to how you read or interpret your data.

Folks, am I wrong?

Yes, you are! I suppose you drink the new Coke too.

The real Encore Pro is just as easy to use as the knock off, it allows James Skinner's program to work, it has many more options for file and print usage.

It's so Easy a Caveman could use it! I don't use the insurance but I do drink real Coke. Jim

Hey Jim...where have you been? New Coke has gone the way of the Doh Doh bird and Coke Zero is where it's at!

Anyways, if you download Primo PDF (it's free), you can actually hit the "print" button in Encore Viewer and save your data. I have heard about James Skinner's program. I understand that it has some further features you can use, is there a link here where we can see additional reports etc.

I think in the end it boils down to what software you are comfortable with.

Ouch, you still sore at me about the Insurance post? I realize that many here have to pay out of their own pocket for various reasons. All I was trying to say and not to speak for either you nor Rooster, for those that have an insurance plan, certainly for every dollar spent outside of the plan is a dollar in their pocket that they don't have to commit to pay to a DME or the insured. They certainly are not going to credit all those that pay premiums dollar for dollar that is not't claimed. I understand that rising insurance costs is making it harder and harder for all to afford insurance. But what we learned in school about supply and demand is the basic truth about our economic systems, it just minimalizes the discussion around the greed factor of buyer and supplier

I certainly would pay outside of my plan if my equipment if my deductible was more than the cost of the tank and HH. I currently can't claim for masks so I pay for those myself. Jim, if I offended or angered, I apologize!

I have never used Encore Viewer, or drank the new Coke or Coke Zero, I always use the "Real Thing". I don't buy in having to have new, I have to have the best, and many times that doesn't mean new. I use Adobe Pro 9, Extended.

I don't get sore, life's too short, I get even, but not all the time. The truth about supply and demand is 95% of us provide the wealth by working to the 5% that hold the wealth, That's something they don't teach in Econ 101. They tell you is you work and think you can rise to the top, they don't tell you they hired a guy to skim you out of the pot if you rise to the top. Of Course, this doesn't apply to those who would rather not work at all. The 95% that work, get to pay for their share too.

I weigh ever purchase against value, whichever way works best for me is the way I go. I try not to get blindsided by slick operators, sometimes even the old dog gets fooled, but not twice..... Jim


Encore Pro 1.8 sets whether the card erases inside the program as stated in previous posts, the older version had a program on the CD that needed to be run, (Do Not Erase), that wrote to the Reg and set the program to erase or not.

Fredman wrote:Anyways, if you download Primo PDF (it's free), you can actually hit the "print" button in Encore Viewer and save your data. I have heard about James Skinner's program. I understand that it has some further features you can use, is there a link here where we can see additional reports etc.

Hey Fredman - yes, it's true that one can PDF the EncoreViewer reports and that's probably enough for many folks. EncorePro, on the other hand, stores it's data in a SQL Server database which is what makes it possible for EncoreProAnalyzer to work (can't read data from a PDF and manipulate it properly).

Mindy

mindy wrote:

Fredman wrote:Anyways, if you download Primo PDF (it's free), you can actually hit the "print" button in Encore Viewer and save your data. I have heard about James Skinner's program. I understand that it has some further features you can use, is there a link here where we can see additional reports etc.

Hey Fredman - yes, it's true that one can PDF the EncoreViewer reports and that's probably enough for many folks. EncorePro, on the other hand, stores it's data in a SQL Server database which is what makes it possible for EncoreProAnalyzer to work (can't read data from a PDF and manipulate it properly).

Mindy

Oh, when I had Encore Pro, I did not see Encore Pro Analyzer is that an add-on program. I found SQL server for whatever reason slowed my machine down quite a bit and loaded everytime my machine was booted. I tried to change that in options or preferences...but had no sucess.

I am not sure what you mean "can't read data from a PDF"? The EncoreProAnalyzer tells you what you need to manipulate to tweak?

I did not dislike Encore Pro, I just need to understand more, it sounds that I was missing a whole different functionality that I was not aware of!

[quote="Fredman]
Oh, when I had Encore Pro, I did not see Encore Pro Analyzer is that an add-on program. I found SQL server for whatever reason slowed my machine down quite a bit and loaded everytime my machine was booted. I tried to change that in options or preferences...but had no sucess.

I am not sure what you mean "can't read data from a PDF"? The EncoreProAnalyzer tells you what you need to manipulate to tweak?

I did not dislike Encore Pro, I just need to understand more, it sounds that I was missing a whole different functionality that I was not aware of! [/quote]

Hi Fredman, Encore Pro Analyzer is James Skinner's wonderful add-on program. It creates a whole series of graphs that I find very useful. By "can't read data from a PDF" what I mean is that I can't just load that PDF into Excel or into statistics software to further analyze my own data. One can export the data from the SQL Server database and write one's own programs. I haven't done that because the data is lengthy and, imo, complex. James' program is just the ticket for me.

MIndy

mindy wrote:
Hi Fredman, Encore Pro Analyzer is James Skinner's wonderful add-on program. It creates a whole series of graphs that I find very useful. By "can't read data from a PDF" what I mean is that I can't just load that PDF into Excel or into statistics software to further analyze my own data. One can export the data from the SQL Server database and write one's own programs. I haven't done that because the data is lengthy and, imo, complex. James' program is just the ticket for me.

MIndy

Thanks Mindy that helps!

Fredman wrote:I switched back to Encore viewer...simple,easy and just as interactive. There really is nothing special to Pro that is going to make a change to how you read or interpret your data.

Folks, am I wrong?

Well, the difference for me is the sql database. I can construct my own reports and get more background information from what is available.