Exercises can cure Obstructive Sleep Apnea.

Rich92109 wrote:Sorry I was so late getting back to you, but I was busy. Well, finally some response. What venom and vitriol! We've come to recognize "snake oil" when we see it. I noticed that not one of you, not one, said that you tried my exercises and they didn't work for you. My problem is not necessarily in my throat....it's in my nasal passages.....they close up and then I breathe through my mouth and then my tongue ends up blocking my airway. As long as my CPAP therapy keeps my nasal passages open, I don't have to have surgery on my nasal passages and I'm doing just fine, thank you. No amount of neck exercises are going to fix my nasal passages. Not even someone else's exercises that didn't work for you. You mostly seem to be experts at HAVING sleep apnea but none of you have cured sleep apnea. Just so you know, I was tested for sleep apnea by Dr. Terence Davidson, head of the sleep apnea department at the University of California at San Diego Medical Group. It was Dr. Davidson who gave me a sleep monitor to take home and wear for 3 nights. The result, I was told, was that I woke up 44 times per hour and that there was no known cure. I was prescribed a CPAP machine. As I explained on my web site, I could not use the CPAP machine because it blew the mask off my face, so blocked was my air way. Sounds like you were not set up and trained to using it properly......like many other people that come here. That was in 2001. After suffering for years with the results of my sleep apnea, I figured out six exercises that I believe have cured my sleep apnea. I returned to see Dr. Davidson and asked to be tested again for sleep apnea. I was told they no longer allow tests at home and that I'd have to spend several nights in their sleep clinic hooked up to monitors, which seemed like a lousy idea since I really can't sleep well except in my own bed. I then told Dr. Davidson that I thought I had cured my sleep apnea with exercises because all of my symptoms had disappeared. He snickered and walked out of the room. The intern assisting him listened to my story and wished me well. I can understand why they thought it was amusing......the true test would be for you to go to a sleep lab for a "real" sleep study.

Now, that is all I claim. I don't need a Doctor or tests to tell me I feel better. I found all of your comments useless and offensive and I will not return to this forum again. I thought there were thoughtful contributors among you, but I seem to have been mistaken. I've made my experience and the exercises available on my web site at a price that anyone can afford with a money back guarantee. What have any of you contributed to solving the problem, no matter how undocumented? Talk about living in the box. You poor souls. We're doin' just fine. Don't let the door hit you in the A$$ on your way out.

I sleep just fine, its a shame you don't as well. I'm sleeping just fine and have the peace of mind that my condition is being ADEQUATELY treated with the RIGHT therapy.

Anonymous wrote:Harsh? US? More like HILARIOUS!!!!

Dan, I think I just wet myself laughing over your koala offer. I'm sending $20 in multiple installments RIGHT AWAY!

LOL,
Babs

jskinner wrote:Wow its a harsh group here

While we can't take this idea seriously without research and testing lets not forget that the cause of apnea in some cases is weak muscles. Its stands to reason that exercises could improve that some.

Not saying that this works but its not beyond the scope of possibility that exercise could help in my mind.

WearyOne wrote: But this guy's attitude beginning with the first e-mail is unbelievable. I exchanged a few e-mails with him, and it's the same stuff there as well.

WearyOne wrote:
How do koalas fair with cats?

Or should I go for a kangaroo, who might just let the cat sleep in the pouch?!? What do you think?

Have to know that before placing my order.


Pam

jskinner wrote:Wow its a harsh group here

While we can't take this idea seriously without research and testing lets not forget that the cause of apnea in some cases is weak muscles. Its stands to reason that exercises could improve that some.

Not saying that this works but its not beyond the scope of possibility that exercise could help in my mind.

Of course selling a cure for $20 without any proof is just plain wrong

I heartily agree. And, isn't this the same point that Ozij and I have made in regard to mouth taping? Show us the research, do not just bombard us with anecdotal evidence or guesswork.

One question I have is: how long would this so-called cure be effective? Surgery is often effective for only a few years, I have been told.

Is this series of exercises effective only when combined with weight loss and/or skeletal muscle exercise? I believe that is how the myriad weight loss products manage to avoid FDA or consumer group censure. They seem to have fine print that says, "Results not typical. <product name> works in conjunction with a sensible eating plan and regular exercise."

Uhhh......then why do I need the product? Believe me, if the product was that effective, most of the civilized world would be free from obesity. I suspect that the same thing COULD be true of this regime.

What is "occasional" practice of the exercises--at every stop sign each day? Every other TV commercial? That would maintain the muscle tone...as long as the exercises were spread out a bit and done a minimum of 3 times per week. (For example, a Monday-Wednesday-Friday scheme would work.)

Why is there no endorsement by a speech and language pathologist? Surely, there would be someone who works with this kind of therapy daily and has studied the mouth and throat muscles extensively, who would be happy to endorse this product if it IS as effective as claimed?

Is it because these exercises are done routinely in the process of such therapy and every speech and language pathologist already knows of them? In that case, it would be equivalent to saying that there is an exercise program that will miraculously cure one of excess weight. Just send me the money and I'll send it to you...and it turns out to be walking 15 miles a day.

Would we even HAVE cpap therapy if Colin Sullivan, MD had not done some hard and fast, peer-reviewed, statistically significant and relevant research? Research (even medical research, with a possibility of only one chance in a thousand that the results are incorrect) is also often repeated several times, and sometimes with small variations.

Well, short of research, each of us must make our own decisions. Gee, isn't that what this forum is all about?

In conclusion, once more I say: Please show us the research. That is a simple request.

Hey, even the didgeridoo advocate has research!

Karen,
Who would REALLY miss my humidified air if cured



P.S. Here is another cure for apnea:



A very similar cure is often experienced by non-compliant apneics.