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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:00 pm
by Goofproof
JeffH wrote:Lee Lee, I think I can get this simple for you. You have to think of this process as sex. There are three parts to this that you have to deal with.
First is a battery. As stated, deep cycle works best. The battery has a positive and a negative post(s) that you attach the receptacle too. Think of this as the female part and it must be "charged up" (foreplay).
Now you take the male part (the part you buy from cpap.com) and exchange it for the power cord on your machine. Now comes the fun part. You plug the male part into the female part and everyone's happy.
You may now fall asleep.
Are you saying it will run for more than five minutes before it falls asleep? Jim
Don't buy it, if the name on the front is "MinuteMan"
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:13 pm
by JeffH
Goofproof wrote:JeffH wrote:Lee Lee, I think I can get this simple for you. You have to think of this process as sex. There are three parts to this that you have to deal with.
First is a battery. As stated, deep cycle works best. The battery has a positive and a negative post(s) that you attach the receptacle too. Think of this as the female part and it must be "charged up" (foreplay).
Now you take the male part (the part you buy from cpap.com) and exchange it for the power cord on your machine. Now comes the fun part. You plug the male part into the female part and everyone's happy.
You may now fall asleep.
Are you saying it will run for more than five minutes before it falls asleep? :D Jim
Don't buy it, if the name on the front is "MinuteMan"
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:49 pm
by Guest
OK, I am CRACKING up laughing!!
Does it smoke afterwards???
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:12 pm
by rested gal
Lee Lee wrote:Does anyone know of a battery operated CPAP that's good? Maybe I should go that route. It would probably cost the same as the Battery Geek product.
Aeiomed's
Everest 2 CPAP machine. It can work like any CPAP plugged into the wall, and if power goes out it automatically switches over to its battery for uninterrupted treatment all night.
Leave it plugged into the wall and it trickle recharges itself the next day.
I have that machine for use on "thunderstorm predicted" nights.
I know you've already seen the following link and have probably dug into plenty of the topics, Lee Lee... I'm posting the link for new readers who may not have come across it yet.
LINKS to Battery operation, camping, power outage
viewtopic.php?t=9682
Power
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:27 pm
by Hawthorne
Hey, Rested Gal! How are you? Can you have the humidifier of the Everest 2 running when it is in battery mode? I can do without the humidifier if I have to. At the present time (hot and humid here), I am running the humidifier in passover mode anyway. I am planning to buy the Everest 2 for "thunderstorm predicted" nights. Should have already done it but just never seem to get around to it. I am going to get caught one of these nights! Thanks.
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:58 am
by Pd
I have a worry now. I have both my M-series APAP and F&P 150 plugged into a computer UPS. I thought that the line filtering and automatic battery backup would be good for me and my equiptment. But now I am concerned because I doubt that the inexpensive UPS provides a pure sign wave.
Will this arrangement cause any damage to my equiptment? Should I give up the idea of using a computer APC UPS to power my stuff?
I am not looking for days of battery power, only minutes.
Thanks for the help.
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:33 am
by bdp522
I also have the Everest. It is a great little machine. It has an integrated HH that will run on the battery power. It will run about 12 hrs at a pressure of 10 with out the HH turned off(that's 2 nites for me). You'll get about 7-8 Hrs with the HH turned on. I love the fact that it switches from battery to regular power all by itself. No interupted sleep at all.
Brenda
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:37 am
by Bearded_One
The M-series and the F&P 150 will run fine from a modified sine wave inverter.
All F&P equipment will run just fine from a modified sine wave inverter, per an email from F&P.
ResMed specifically has problems with modified sine wave, and at least one of their humidifiers isn't supposed to be ran from any sort of inverter.
Power
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:46 am
by Hawthorne
Thanks bdp522! That's great to know! It looks like a really good solution in power outages! It doesn't cost much more that a fancy battery and, if you have it set up, ready to go, you don't have to do anything except get a good night's sleep! You also have a great backup machine!
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:28 pm
by Bookbear
Pd, my comments about the pure sine wave output applied ONLY to ResMed machines used with integrated humidifiers. AFAIK, your setup should work fine with a modified sine wave output, which nearly all the equipment suggested in this thread provide.
Re: Power
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:03 pm
by rested gal
Hawthorne wrote:Hey, Rested Gal! How are you? Can you have the humidifier of the Everest 2 running when it is in battery mode?
I think you can; however, I haven't used the Everest's humidifier...I just continue to use my separate Fisher & Paykel HC 150 humidifier whenever I use the Everest. I figure if the power goes off, I can do fine with the F&P humidifier turning off, too. It would at least provide passover humidification for the remainder of the night.
Another good question regarding the Everest to ask someone (I don't know the answer) ... if the electricity goes off and the CPAP machine has switched to battery operation but is still plugged into the wall, and then the electricity comes back on... will the machine stop using its battery and go back to using the regular wall outlet electricity? I'd think it probably would, but I don't know that for sure.
I suppose it's possible the machine might keep on using the battery for that session even though the power came back on...maybe until the machine was manually turned off and back on again.
But if it
does switch automatically back to the regular plugged-in-power should power be restored during the night, that would be ideal! I just haven't paid attention to whether that has happened. I simply drag that good little machine out from under the bed if a thunderstorm is a'comin.
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:17 pm
by tashabear
I use
this Black & Decker Power Station when I go camping. Can't use the humidifier, but unhumidified air is better than no air. It lasted me about 14 hours, so enough for two nights.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:49 am
by bdp522
A quick call to AEIOmed got this response;
When wall power goes off the machine will automatically switch to battery power. When the wall power is restored the machine will automatically switch back to wall power(even mid-session) and trickle charge the battery.
Brenda
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:55 am
by rested gal
Brenda, that's great to know! Thanks for making the call that I was too lazy to make!!
The Everest 2 really is a neat little machine.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:47 am
by Lee Lee
I've decided to buy that machine (the Everest.) But let me whine.
I called cpap.com and my prescription won't work! I am so bummed.
My prescripton says APAP with heated humidified air. I don't use APAP anymore, because CPAP works much better. (for me). And I don't use the humidifier much, because we have like, 100 percent humidity here in Virginia in the summer.
Now, I have to go to my primary care doctor, get a refferal, go to the ENT specialist and talk them in to giving me a prescription for CPAP.
I am not happy about that at all. And thunderstorms are a brewin'.