Diabetes....

CarrieS · Post by **CarrieS** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:04 pm

Okay so I know diabetes is often related to the overweight as is sleep apnea. However I am not overweight and have just big diagnosed with prediabetes - is there any correlation with sleep apnea and diabetes aside from the easy statistic raiser of weight issues? KWIM? If I get one more health issue that I dont fit the profile for Ill flip out why? because I cant do much to help myself I eat well I excercise always have been lucky as far as weight not being an issue. I feel like theres little I can do to decrease my health problems. Thyroid too....I swear for 28 Im a stinkin train wreck. Im also suppose to go to MayoCLinic for a joint/muscle issue Ive had for 12 years. Okay thanks for listening to my poor me myself now is their a correlation between the diabetes and apnea

roster · Post by **roster** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:53 pm

CarrieS,

Definitely a slim person can develop Type II diabetes due to hormonal problems caused by sleep apnea. I am guessing that what you describe as pre-diabetes is insulin resistance. With successful treatment of apnea you should be able to avoid diabetes and eliminate insulin resistance.

Slim Rooster

CarrieS · Post by **CarrieS** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:33 pm

Thanks so much! Thats some great news - I just got the lab results and havent actually talked to the doctor yet - the nurse said I had to come in tomorrow for an appointment to talk about it with the doctor and a diabetic diet. This is all fairly new as I was tested and ha 18mos ago during my pregnancy and was fine. That said it would make sense that the 2 are related - Im ecstatic to hear that with as my apnea treatment increases that the prediabetes will dissapate.

goose · Post by **goose** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:32 pm

Hey Carrie,
Did you do a glucose tolerance test or was it just a regular blood test?? What were your blood glucose numbers?? Fasting?? 1 hour?? 2 hour??

Being a diabetic I'm really leery when people are told something like pre-diabetes or borderline diabetes -- there really isn't any such thing. You either have it or you don't. (Also, there really isn't any such thing as a diabetic diet).

The only way to really make that determination is to do a tolerance test where you drink some glucose liquid (take the lemon-lime and make sure it's coldish!!! ) and they take your blood once an hour (I had to remind my lab tech to take a sample before I did the drink so they had a baseline.....what a maroon!!!!). There are varying levels of 2, 3, 4 + hour tests -- depends on what your doc orders.

Apnea can cause your glucose levels to be elevated, so with proper apnea control the numbers should come down.

I can totally understand your feeling about a diagnosis, but do some research before you see the doc (google has been my greatest tool!!!), and ask questions!!!!

take care
cheers
goose

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:09 pm

Diabetes and Sleep Apnea, are the Golden Goose diseases, most Doctors don't have a clue.

I've had diabetes for 15 years, never was given a glucose tolerance test. i went to my Dr. told him I had Diabetes, he ask me why I thought that, I told him I had the symptoms, and the test meter read HHH (To high to measure) and it went to 600. He did a strip test on me and got on the phone and orderted me a hospital room. I told him don't bother, I'd be at work in a hour.

I told him I'd tell the boss to look up the hospitals number. He treated me with drugs for ten years that didn't help, The last five we have been shooting insulin, lots of it still too high. When I was in the hospital they took care of the dosing, and did worse than I do. Jim

Having sleep apnea under control hasn't helped the glucose either.

I agree, there isn't any such thing as a diabetic diet, everything you take in converts to sugar. I wouldn't even exclude air. Jim

goose · Post by **goose** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:28 pm

Wow Jim - are you type II??

My comments are really around someone with marginal numbers -- If mine went to 600 I'd be either very dead or seriously bouncing off of the walls -- I get really antsy at 180...But again, my average number is 103 -- with metformin (glucophage)!!!

I've heard others here who had marginal numbers that it made some level of difference -- I'm hoping that controlling my apnea will bring it down 3 points!! (Not much, but anything is a help). Hoping for the same result with the HBP as well

yeah -- I think you're right -- air has about 5 carbs per breath!!!!!

take care!!!!
cheers
goose

SisterShotgun · Post by **SisterShotgun** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:58 am

goose wrote:
yeah -- I think you're right -- air has about 5 carbs per breath!!!!!

goose

I am beginning to think this may be true at least with my son But then again he has type 1 and his numbers are all over the place this week. One thing to remember is that not only food or certain drinks or air can raise glucose numbers, stress can affect them too, muscle strain, hot weather oh the list goes on and on..

Drink a lot of water and other non-carb fluids, it helps to keep the glucose levels down. Eat whole wheat bread, noodles, stay away from white breads, potatoes. More green veggies.

Since we have started following a stricter diet with more whole wheat and veggies and certain fruits, my son's glucose numbers are starting to even out. The more exercise the better, this helps for type1 as well as type 2.

If anyone wants to PM me I can give you a list of lower carb veggies, and fruit.

CarrieS · Post by **CarrieS** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:30 am

Prediabetes is a new term for IFG (I have IFG) or OGTT - I am basically in the first steps of diabetes which they now term prediabetes. It is the range of glucose level that is aboive normal but not what they considered diabetes which you need treatment for yet. Prediabetes does exist and there is this "gray area" which I am unfortunately in heres from the american diabetes association http://www.diabetes.org/pre-diabetes/pr ... mptoms.jsp However I do agree the term prediabetes is misleading I think they should just say Im in the early stages of diabetes but for whatever reason they give the disease 2 names based on the level of abnormalty. My mother has diabetes and she is on a diabetic diet and has come down on her dose of medication because of it so I think for some people it does help. I had a 12hr fast test then a 1hr test after that - my fasting level was abnormal which explains why sometimes I get light headed. ALmost everyone who has prediabetes gets diabetes consider like HIV and AIDS I guess the predetermining factor is already there and you do whatever you can to prolong the next step of the disease. I think in my case there isnt much though well see at 3:00.

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