CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by Conrad » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:50 am

chunkyfrog wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:09 pm
Faith, hope, and trust.
Misdirected?
Others have either been fulfilled; or have given up in disgust.
Never having used philips: PRICELESS!
I agree!

Folks here have received a settlement, WTH?

And no one talks about it? It would be a BIG help to those of us still attempting to get compensation to hear of other's success stories. :shock:
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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:27 pm

Whether or not there has been success depends on your definition of success.
Any outcome extending ones dependence on a mediocre company is not my idea of success.

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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by Conrad » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:10 am

chunkyfrog wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:27 pm
Whether or not there has been success depends on your definition of success.
Any outcome extending ones dependence on a mediocre company is not my idea of success.
WTH are you going on about this time? :lol:
 
Ok, in what way EXACTLY did I indicate any dependance on this 'mediocre company'?

My definition of success, in this case, is to receive the reimbursement that was promised.

I am most certainly not depending on said reimbursement, nor will I suffer if I don't get it. I'll be just fine, so don't you worry about me. :roll:
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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:25 pm

IMO, the intent of philips' exchange process was to trap patients
into years longer of dealing with their inferior machines.
The decent thing would have been to recall their damn junk, and giving out cash refunds!
The whole stinking nightmare is appalling!

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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by Conrad » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:43 am

chunkyfrog wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:25 pm
IMO, the intent of philips' exchange process was to trap patients
into years longer of dealing with their inferior machines.
The decent thing would have been to recall their damn junk, and giving out cash refunds!
The whole stinking nightmare is appalling!
You're not posting Haikus, you know? You style, to me, appears to be an attempt to emulate that style and you're falling short in a big way. If that's not your intention, sorry.

Anyway...

How does returning a defective CPAP to the manufacturer during a recall, in exchange for cash trap anyone into using an inferior machine for years??

Do you even know how this recall is supposed to work? It seems that you don't.
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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by amenite » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:57 pm

Poetry month starts on Monday. Which reminds me of one of my favorite Haikus:

Haikus are easy
But sometimes they don't make sense
Refrigerator


But I digress ...

There needs to be the distinction here between the replacement devices and these fixed payments to incentivize folks to return their machines, and then this settlement fund that will compensate all those who just went out and replaced their equipment out of pocket. I did get two crappy refurb machines myself which are going back, so that I can be made eligible for participation in that pool which won't be carved up until August or later.

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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:41 pm

No haiku attempt here.
Coincidence only.
It must be a cultural thing.
Too Irish to feel poetry when nothing rhymes.

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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by Conrad » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:19 am

chunkyfrog wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:41 pm
No haiku attempt here.
Coincidence only.
It must be a cultural thing.
Too Irish to feel poetry when nothing rhymes.
Glad that we got the Haiku thing settled, what about this?

How does returning a defective CPAP to the manufacturer during a recall, in exchange for cash trap anyone into using an inferior machine for years??

Do you even know how this recall is supposed to work? It seems that you don't.
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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by Conrad » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:23 am

amenite wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:57 pm
Poetry month starts on Monday. Which reminds me of one of my favorite Haikus:

Haikus are easy
But sometimes they don't make sense
Refrigerator


But I digress ...

There needs to be the distinction here between the replacement devices and these fixed payments to incentivize folks to return their machines, and then this settlement fund that will compensate all those who just went out and replaced their equipment out of pocket. I did get two crappy refurb machines myself which are going back, so that I can be made eligible for participation in that pool which won't be carved up until August or later.
I returned two crappy machines and got two crappy replacements. I still have the crappy replacements. I also went out of pocket and purchased a ResMed machine.
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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by amenite » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:19 am

Ok so in that case there is some process whereby you return the crappy refurbs which makes you eligible for this pool to pay you for your out of pocket. Receipts will be required I'm sure. And if you send back the recalled machines too if not already done so, you get that incentive payment also which is some fixed $ amount

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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by Conrad » Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:08 am

amenite wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:19 am
Ok so in that case there is some process whereby you return the crappy refurbs which makes you eligible for this pool to pay you for your out of pocket. Receipts will be required I'm sure. And if you send back the recalled machines too if not already done so, you get that incentive payment also which is some fixed $ amount
I returned two machines. One was an old PR machine, my first cpap, not used any longer but on the recall list, my backup at the time. The other was a newer (less than two years old) PR Deamstation Bipap. Both machines were/are registered with Phillips and are in the recalled group. I personally didn't return these two machines at the same time, my DME took care of all this. When I turned in the newer machine (months after the recall was announced), I was given, what appeared to be, a brand new Dreamstation 2 bipap. New box, new smell, still had the stickers and protective film on it. After plugging it in and checking the hours, all zero. I still have this machine as a backup since I bought a ResMed AirCurve 10 bipap out of pocket rather than wait for a replacement.

The second replacement machine that I was given (replaced the old PR cpap) was clearly a rehabed cpap. It didn't come in a box, had no stickers on it (except for one, it said remanufactured or some such thing), and had hours on the timers. I gave this to my son as his backup machine.

I may have to return the two replacements as well, not sure, if I want to be reimbursed.
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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by Grumpy48 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:30 am

Hey Conrad......

"I was given, what appeared to be, a brand new Dreamstation 2 bipap. New box, new smell, still had the stickers and protective film on it. After plugging it in and checking the hours, all zero. I still have this machine as a backup since I bought a ResMed AirCurve 10 bipap out of pocket rather than wait for a replacement."


To my knowledge there was never a DreamStation 2 Bipap model, only the 'Auto CPAP Advanced' as it's called.

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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by Conrad » Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:34 am

Grumpy48 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:30 am
Hey Conrad......

"I was given, what appeared to be, a brand new Dreamstation 2 bipap. New box, new smell, still had the stickers and protective film on it. After plugging it in and checking the hours, all zero. I still have this machine as a backup since I bought a ResMed AirCurve 10 bipap out of pocket rather than wait for a replacement."


To my knowledge there was never a DreamStation 2 Bipap model, only the 'Auto CPAP Advanced' as it's called.
I'm here to tell you that there is a DreamStation 2 Bipap machine. I have one right here.

And,

https://www.thecpapshop.com/dreamstatio ... ask-bundle

And,

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/pr-dre ... to-machine
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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by Grumpy48 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:24 am

Conrad...

You have a DreamStation 1 (original) Bipap. The DreamStation 2 is pictured in the link below...

https://www.usa.philips.com/healthcare/ ... -auto-cpap

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Re: CPAP Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Post by Conrad » Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:33 am

Grumpy48 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:24 am
Conrad...

You have a DreamStation 1 (original) Bipap. The DreamStation 2 is pictured in the link below...

https://www.usa.philips.com/healthcare/ ... -auto-cpap
I stand corrected. It may look like the original, but I guess it's been changed internally in some way, right?
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