New user introduction

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Pugsy » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:59 pm

Curious_Steve wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:49 pm
but I seem to roll around quite a bit because the arm/shoulder I'm laying on gets mad at me.
Ahhhh...that might be it as well. Any discomfort can/will mess with our sleep.
I have that TShirt myself. But sometimes even when you know the problem and try to fix it we can't fix it well enough to help the sleep quality all that much.
My back/pelvic pain is made worse by rain....and cold...and staying in any one position for very long. I do the best I can but my sleep quality is often in the toilet as well.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Curious_Steve » Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:02 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:59 pm
Curious_Steve wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:49 pm
but I seem to roll around quite a bit because the arm/shoulder I'm laying on gets mad at me.
Ahhhh...that might be it as well. Any discomfort can/will mess with our sleep.
I have that TShirt myself. But sometimes even when you know the problem and try to fix it we can't fix it well enough to help the sleep quality all that much.
My back/pelvic pain is made worse by rain....and cold...and staying in any one position for very long. I do the best I can but my sleep quality is often in the toilet as well.
We posted at the same time.
I'm happy enough with my sleep quality at the moment, so if aches and pains are keeping me from getting the best sleep, it might be time to recheck my "sleep number" bed setting.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Curious_Steve » Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:10 pm

Here's last night.
https://sleephq.com/public/a94b9be6-0d2 ... 5f9891274a

Last couple of nights I have been putting a piece of t-shirt material between my mask and my face. It has all but eliminated the dreaded face fart mask leak, and I don't have that slimy feel to my skin.
Curious what y'all think about my datalog.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Rubicon » Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:28 am

Curious_Steve wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:10 pm
Curious what y'all think about my datalog.
IMO I'd say there's ~25% improvement from what you (I) looked at earlier.

Still room for improvement.
Freeze this moment a little bit longer.
Make each sensation a little bit stronger.
Experience slips away.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Curious_Steve » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:31 pm

Rubicon wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:28 am
Curious_Steve wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:10 pm
Curious what y'all think about my datalog.
IMO I'd say there's ~25% improvement from what you (I) looked at earlier.

Still room for improvement.
Thank you for the insight.
Also, I've been making a conscious effort to limit coffee enjoyment to morning hours only as you recommended a few posts back.
I feel like I am sleeping deeper, but not necessarily better.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Rubicon » Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:18 am

Curious_Steve wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:31 pm
Also, I've been making a conscious effort to limit coffee enjoyment to morning hours only as you recommended a few posts back.
Great.

Post back when you
limit coffee enjoyment to morning hours only
Freeze this moment a little bit longer.
Make each sensation a little bit stronger.
Experience slips away.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Rubicon » Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:59 am

Curious_Steve wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:31 pm
I feel like I am sleeping deeper, but not necessarily better.
Using our surrogate (Minute Ventilation)(aka "Flintstone Tools") and counting pixels of stuff that could be sleep:

Image

your pSE (psuedo-Sleep Efficiency) has gone from 43% to 72%. Yay, right?

Except a 70% Sleep Efficiency is classified as "Train Wreck".

You need ~90% to be a Good Sleeper.
Freeze this moment a little bit longer.
Make each sensation a little bit stronger.
Experience slips away.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Curious_Steve » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:47 pm

Rubicon wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:59 am
Curious_Steve wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:31 pm
I feel like I am sleeping deeper, but not necessarily better.
Using our surrogate (Minute Ventilation)(aka "Flintstone Tools") and counting pixels of stuff that could be sleep:

Image

your pSE (psuedo-Sleep Efficiency) has gone from 43% to 72%. Yay, right?

Except a 70% Sleep Efficiency is classified as "Train Wreck".

You need ~90% to be a Good Sleeper.
Dang. I didn't realize i was still so far off.
I don't know what to do different to pick up another ~20%.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Curious_Steve » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:41 pm

Sunday night and Monday night were polar opposites.
Sunday night I feel like I got good sleep. Monday night I feel like my brain never shut down....to the point that I felt like I wasn't actually asleep.
Do the datalogs corroborate this? Because it almost seems like they disagree with how I feel I slept.

Sun: https://sleephq.com/public/87656d6b-daa ... 8c8ae4809c
Mon: https://sleephq.com/public/f8f37188-00b ... accc6c372c

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Rubicon » Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:03 am

Curious_Steve wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:41 pm
Because it almost seems like they disagree with how I feel I slept.
What does that mean specifically?
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Make each sensation a little bit stronger.
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Re: New user introduction

Post by Rubicon » Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:45 am

Sunday:

Image

Monday:

Image

Clue: Go straight to your second impression...
Freeze this moment a little bit longer.
Make each sensation a little bit stronger.
Experience slips away.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Curious_Steve » Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:32 am

Rubicon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:03 am
Curious_Steve wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:41 pm
Because it almost seems like they disagree with how I feel I slept.
What does that mean specifically?
To my untrained eye, the data seems to suggest I slept better Monday than on Sunday. But I felt like garbage yesterday.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Curious_Steve » Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:35 am

Rubicon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:45 am
Sunday:

Image

Monday:

Image

Clue: Go straight to your second impression...
I appreciate the guidance, but I have to be upfront and admit that I struggle to decipher what you mean when I don't have enough context.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Rubicon » Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:42 am

Curious_Steve wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:35 am
... I don't have enough context.
But you do!

Look at the y-axes. Different scales. For example, Monday Tidal Volume looks very quiet, but the scale is doubled.

Another shortfall of SleepHQ.
Freeze this moment a little bit longer.
Make each sensation a little bit stronger.
Experience slips away.

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Re: New user introduction

Post by Curious_Steve » Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:18 am

Rubicon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:42 am
Curious_Steve wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:35 am
... I don't have enough context.
But you do!

Look at the y-axes. Different scales. For example, Monday Tidal Volume looks very quiet, but the scale is doubled.

Another shortfall of SleepHQ.
So Monday's sleep datalog proves how I felt on Tuesday?