Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

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Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by MikeekiM » Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:28 pm

It's been about 6 months since I started CPAP therapy, and I continue to unconsciously removing my mask in the middle of the night. I typically get between 1 and 3 hours of mask usage per night right now.

I've tried to "analyze" my OSCAR/SleepHQ data to see if there is anything that I can see that could explain a trigger for me taking the mask off, but haven't seen anything obvious... The only thing that I think might be an issue is the humidity setting, mainly because when I do semi-consciously wake up when I take my mask off, I *THINK* that my throat feels a little dry (but I am half asleep, so I am not 100% sure).

My humidity setting was set at 4 by my sleep therapist, and that was obviously too dry for me. So over time, I have moved it to 6. I wanted to move it to 7, but when I did so, my tubing and mask started making popping noises due to the excess humidity, so I dialed it back to 6... I also moved to a heated tube for these colder winter months, and it seems to be doing well...

So now, I was going to raise my humidity level to 7 (and ratchet it up a single digit at a time) to see if it improves my ability to keep my mask on throughout the night. However, I didn't realize that once I connected the heated tube, the "Climate Control" setting defaults to "auto", and I lose the ability to raise the humidity unless I switch to manual... So I did... And when I do so, the temp is at 80F and the humidity is at 6.

I've read that if you don't know what you are doing (and I don't), that leaving the Climate Control in the "auto" setting is recommended...

Any guidance on playing with these two settings? Should I just leave the 80F and start to raise the humidity levels up to see if it results in better comfort? Is there any guidance or suggestions on how to "play" with the heat tube temperatures? What behavior would indicate I have the temp set too high or too low? Is the temperature setting just for reducing humidity build up inside the tube? Is it just for air temperature comfort?

I know, I know... I am probably overthinking this... That's my special power... ;)

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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by Pugsy » Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:56 pm

You can set both the humidity controls and hose air temp to manual from auto and it will hold but you have to make the change permanent by going into the clinical setup area.
The manual explains how to get to the clinical setup menu...
I don't know which ResMed you are using the AirSense 10 or the AirSense 11....so I have included links to both models

https://www.respshop.com/manuals/ResMed ... %20her.pdf

https://media.resmed.com/sites/3/202106 ... ER-ENG.pdf

How more hose air temp you are going to need to prevent rain out/condensation in the mask and hose is going to depend more on your own ambient room temperature.

For the premature mask removal problem...tape it to your face and hopefully any discomfort from the tape pulling on your face will cause you to wake up and stop the premature removal of the mask.

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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by Jlfinkels » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:40 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:56 pm
[snip]
For the premature mask removal problem...tape it to your face and hopefully any discomfort from the tape pulling on your face will cause you to wake up and stop the premature removal of the mask.
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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by zonker » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:44 pm

Jlfinkels wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:40 pm
Pugsy wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:56 pm
[snip]
For the premature mask removal problem...tape it to your face and hopefully any discomfort from the tape pulling on your face will cause you to wake up and stop the premature removal of the mask.
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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by Jlfinkels » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:49 pm

zonker wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:44 pm
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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by zonker » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:52 pm

Jlfinkels wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:49 pm
zonker wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:44 pm
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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by Pugsy » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm

Jlfinkels wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:40 pm
Like this?
Looks great to me. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now can we stop hijacking someone else's thread?? That's really kinda rude you know guys.
The OP is a newbie here and probably doesn't understand our sicko sense of humor.

Back on topic please...thank you.

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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by zonker » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:56 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
Jlfinkels wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:40 pm
Like this?
Looks great to me. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now can we stop hijacking someone else's thread?? That's really kinda rude you know guys.
The OP is a newbie here and probably doesn't understand our sicko sense of humor.

Back on topic please...thank you.
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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by Jlfinkels » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:59 pm

To the OP, when you increase humidity you typically have to make some change to hose temp. Pugsy is the pro with using high humidity, so listen to her.
Pugsy wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
Now can we stop hijacking someone else's thread?? That's really kinda rude you know guys.
The OP is a newbie here and probably doesn't understand our sicko sense of humor.

Back on topic please...thank you.
It’s actually your fault for leaving us without adult supervision.

There, I split the difference. And an infinitive. All in the same post.
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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by MikeekiM » Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:24 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
Jlfinkels wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:40 pm
Like this?
Looks great to me. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now can we stop hijacking someone else's thread?? That's really kinda rude you know guys.
The OP is a newbie here and probably doesn't understand our sicko sense of humor.

Back on topic please...thank you.
Ha, ha, ha... Thanks for your consideration @Pugsy... I am a regular contributor to a number of forum communities, and I have found that each community has their own culture and social norms... Good to hear that this community has a good sense of humor, and doesn't take itself too seriously... :)

I've been a part of some communities that treat almost every "redundant" topical post with aggressive replies demanding that they "use search before posting" and for them to "Google before posting"... Personally, I think any thriving community needs to be careful of turning their community into a Wiki knowledgeable, as opposed to a place that encourages discussion and interaction...

It's almost like new members joining a new work community or church group asking about the latest movie or streaming program and getting the aggressive reply back that "we've already discussed that"...

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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by MikeekiM » Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:30 pm

Jlfinkels wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:59 pm
To the OP, when you increase humidity you typically have to make some change to hose temp. Pugsy is the pro with using high humidity, so listen to her.
Pugsy wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
Now can we stop hijacking someone else's thread?? That's really kinda rude you know guys.
The OP is a newbie here and probably doesn't understand our sicko sense of humor.

Back on topic please...thank you.
It’s actually your fault for leaving us without adult supervision.

There, I split the difference. And an infinitive. All in the same post.
Thanks... I've been playing around with the settings, and I clearly started "wrong"... I kept the temperature at the 80F and dialed up my humidity to a 7... Woke up to incredible rainout issues... Loud popping and clicking noises, water dripping into my nose... And when I yanked my mask off, it sprayed water on my bed linens like a lawn sprinkler (at least until the auto-off triggered)!!! Ha, ha, ha... Clearly I need to dial things down a bit...

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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by lynninnj » Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:01 pm

MikeekiM wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:30 pm
Jlfinkels wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:59 pm
To the OP, when you increase humidity you typically have to make some change to hose temp. Pugsy is the pro with using high humidity, so listen to her.
Pugsy wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
Now can we stop hijacking someone else's thread?? That's really kinda rude you know guys.
The OP is a newbie here and probably doesn't understand our sicko sense of humor.

Back on topic please...thank you.
It’s actually your fault for leaving us without adult supervision.

There, I split the difference. And an infinitive. All in the same post.
Thanks... I've been playing around with the settings, and I clearly started "wrong"... I kept the temperature at the 80F and dialed up my humidity to a 7... Woke up to incredible rainout issues... Loud popping and clicking noises, water dripping into my nose... And when I yanked my mask off, it sprayed water on my bed linens like a lawn sprinkler (at least until the auto-off triggered)!!! Ha, ha, ha... Clearly I need to dial things down a bit...
lol sorry to laugh but btdt and thanks for the visual.

welcome to the board.

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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:08 pm

Back to the original question:
Taping the mask to your face could help; but if it is still unsuccessful,
a few strands of hair under the tape could be a little more effective.
Only a wee bit of hair is needed--no sense scalping yourself.

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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by lynninnj » Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:19 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:08 pm
Back to the original question:
Taping the mask to your face could help; but if it is still unsuccessful,
a few strands of hair under the tape could be a little more effective.
Only a wee bit of hair is needed--no sense scalping yourself.
You sound like a woman with a lot of hair.

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Re: Heated Tube Climate Control Adjustments

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:09 pm

lynninnj wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:19 pm
chunkyfrog wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:08 pm
Back to the original question:
Taping the mask to your face could help; but if it is still unsuccessful,
a few strands of hair under the tape could be a little more effective.
Only a wee bit of hair is needed--no sense scalping yourself.
You sound like a woman with a lot of hair.
Yes, thank you.
After chemo, it is as thick as ever!
I am a hairy frog!

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