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Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:43 am
by traillrunn3r
last nights OSCAR....much much better. but like i said before the CSR comes randomly. but hoping the EPR setting helps in the long run. also used flonase before bed, def helped. i may continue that at night we'll see.

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Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:11 am
by ezsleeper
Hi traillrunn3r,
I have been also curious about CSR and have found this thread, and others similar, of interest. I looked up in the OSCAR glossary something that may be applicable to your situation, under Cheyne–Stokes respiration (CSR) - it defines what it is and then offers the following caveat: "Note, Resmed machines flag periodic breathing as CSR and in most cases it not CSR. Please see Periodic Breathing". I noticed your machine is a Resmed.
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:45 am
by Pugsy
ezsleeper wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:11 am
Hi traillrunn3r,
I have been also curious about CSR and have found this thread, and others similar, of interest. I looked up in the OSCAR glossary something that may be applicable to your situation, under Cheyne–Stokes respiration (CSR) - it defines what it is and then offers the following caveat: "Note, Resmed machines flag periodic breathing as CSR and in most cases it not CSR. Please see Periodic Breathing". I noticed your machine is a Resmed.
It's pretty classic CSR IMHO. My computer is messed up right now and I can't seem to get to my ResMed manual link where it shows real CSR...but while I know some stuff gets flagged as CSR and it isn't.....I am pretty sure the OP's here does.
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:10 pm
by ezsleeper
Hi Pugsy,
The wave pattern resembles it but the infrequency would seem baffling...not that I am a medical professional in the least. I'm just a guy on the internet researching and learning stuff.
As an aside, I have been here for a few years "lurking" and I just want to take this opportunity to thank you (and others) for much of your advice and insight that helped me when I began (and continue) my therapy journey. So often we never quite know the influence we have on one another's lives. Again, thank you!
Dave
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:14 pm
by zonker
ezsleeper wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:10 pm
As an aside, I have been here for a few years "lurking" and I just want to take this opportunity to thank you (and others) for much of your advice and insight that helped me when I began (and continue) my therapy journey. So often we never quite know the influence we have on one another's lives. Again, thank you!
Dave
well said.
and welcome to the zoo!
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:40 pm
by ChicagoGranny
zonker wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:14 pm
welcome to the zoo!
He's been peeking through the floor cracks for years, and now CSR lured him up onto the cage floor.
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:44 pm
by zonker
ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:40 pm
zonker wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:14 pm
welcome to the zoo!
He's been peeking through the floor cracks for years, and now CSR lured him up onto the cage floor.
our cunning plan WORKED, comrade!
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:40 pm
by Pugsy
ezsleeper wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:10 pm
The wave pattern resembles it but the infrequency would seem baffling...
It is baffling for sure but I have chatted with sleep techs about this and they say that sometimes it just happens and no one knows why.
I was told unless the CSR pattern is obviously consistent and prolonged they sort of shrug their shoulders and move on....once the doctor has also shrugged his shoulders and moved on.
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:11 pm
by ezsleeper
zonker wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:44 pm
ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:40 pm
zonker wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:14 pm
welcome to the zoo!
He's been peeking through the floor cracks for years, and now CSR lured him up onto the cage floor.
our cunning plan WORKED, comrade!
You both are too funny!
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:40 pm
by Okie bipap
Pugsy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:40 pm
It is baffling for sure but I have chatted with sleep techs about this and they say that sometimes it just happens and no one knows why.
I was told unless the CSR pattern is obviously consistent and prolonged they sort of shrug their shoulders and move on....once the doctor has also shrugged his shoulders and moved on.
That is what we have done. My wife continues to have nights where she has CSR, and then will go three or four nights without it. I mentioned it to the nurse practitioner at the sleep clinic, but she didn't seem too worried about it since it was not all of the time, and when it happens it only shows up for short periods (one hour or less) during the night.
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:54 pm
by palerider
traillrunn3r wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:07 pm
freaking out sorta.
looks like i get this 2 - 3 times a month. so its not consistent.
This is the most important part of whatyou said.
Time to freak out is when it happens for large parts of every (or most) night!
Once in a while, odd things crop up... don't worry about them till they're happening routinely.
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:56 pm
by palerider
ezsleeper wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:11 am
Hi traillrunn3r,
I have been also curious about CSR and have found this thread, and others similar, of interest. I looked up in the OSCAR glossary something that may be applicable to your situation, under Cheyne–Stokes respiration (CSR) - it defines what it is and then offers the following caveat: "Note, Resmed machines flag periodic breathing as CSR and in most cases it not CSR. Please see Periodic Breathing". I noticed your machine is a Resmed.
And the machine is flagging it
correctly
It's still nothing to worry about when it only happens a couple times a month.
Re: looks like i have cheyne stokes..
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:47 pm
by traillrunn3r
thanks everyone for all your info and suggestions.
since lowering the EPR i now got this for last night.
its been awhile since i've had a night under 1.0 AHI...

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