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Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:02 pm
by Goofproof
Midwest_non_sleeper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:11 am
palerider wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:45 pm
chunkyfrog wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:37 pm
Goofproof wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:07 pm
chunkyfrog wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:30 pm
So, there may be Tupperware-type parties to program the next generation of cult members?
I hear they serve Kool-Aid, in nice Tumblers. Everyone wins a prize, eternal rest! Jim
I remember those tumblers, metal--different colors . . . OMG---ALUMINUM!
We are all gonna die . . .
In all fairness... it they were *anodized* aluminum (which is how they got the colors in) and anodized aluminum is very non-reactive.
In even more fairness, you could technically anodize aluminum by throwing it into a
SoClean, since anodizing is basically just a highly controlled oxidation process, and ozone has very strong oxidizing properties.
(Yes, I know that wouldn't work, that's the joke)
Fill them with Kool-Aid first. like the directions say!

Jim
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:13 pm
by sila
I just unplugged my SoClean. Appalled at having been suckered.
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:14 pm
by NoOnesPerfect
sila wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:13 pm
I just unplugged my
SoClean. Appalled at having been suckered.
Too late to return it?
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:27 pm
by sila
I think so. I’ve had it for about six months.
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:24 pm
by Goofproof
Well last night just saw the new So No Clean Ad, With Capt Kirk, Another Fail, while in bed with his male friend, he did not use his XPAP machine, probably his standard practice, for Sleep Apnea. Jim
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:39 pm
by jnk...
Goofproof wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:24 pm
Well last night just saw the new So No Clean Ad, With Capt Kirk, Another Fail, while in bed with his male friend, he did not use his XPAP machine, probably his standard practice, for Sleep Apnea. Jim
I agree on the fail. Claimed CPAP makes people sick. Didn't wear a CPAP. Fail. And fail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwdNYDoZ87Y
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:09 pm
by zonker
sila wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:13 pm
I just unplugged my
SoClean. Appalled at having been suckered.
don't feel badly; it's happened to others. mark it down to experience and just watch the next great new thing with a jaundiced eye.
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:25 pm
by chunkyfrog
" . . . a jaundiced eye"
Yellow is the color of the bs filter.
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:02 pm
by djams
sila wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:13 pm
I just unplugged my
SoClean. Appalled at having been suckered.
There have been many many users here who, when the facts about their NoClean are explained to them, will get their feathers ruffled and argue that all the experts here are wrong. Completely unable to admit that they've been buffaloed.
Good for you for being rational, evaluating the facts and taking the appropriate action.
Just appreciate all that real estate you're getting back!

Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:54 am
by yahooboy
I have used CPAP for more than 15 years. Clean my heated hose about once a month, at the most, sometimes two months go buy before I rinse it out!
Rarely ever clean the humidifier, but do use distilled water. I clean the mask infrequently too.
Never had any respiratory illnesses or mold issues.
I looked at So-Clean and Lumin, and thought it was way overpriced and nothing but fearmongering.
The whole germ thing is an overblown scam.
I am not saying don't clean your machine gear regularly, do whatever you are comfortable with.
I live in a dry climate, so that probably helps me "get away with" less cleaning.
I think the manufacturers say to rinse/clean daily/regularly just to CYA themselves, because there will always be somebody who lives in an environment where mold and germs can grow easier than most other people, so they have to instruct to the lowest common denominator.

Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:07 pm
by Goofproof
yahooboy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:54 am
I have used CPAP for more than 15 years. Clean my heated hose about once a month, at the most, sometimes two months go buy before I rinse it out!
Rarely ever clean the humidifier, but do use distilled water. I clean the mask infrequently too.
Never had any respiratory illnesses or mold issues.
I looked at So-Clean and Lumin, and thought it was way overpriced and nothing but fearmongering.
The whole germ thing is an overblown scam.
I am not saying don't clean your machine gear regularly, do whatever you are comfortable with.
I live in a dry climate, so that probably helps me "get away with" less cleaning.
I think the manufacturers say to rinse/clean daily/regularly just to CYA themselves, because there will always be somebody who lives in an environment where mold and germs can grow easier than most other people, so they have to instruct to the lowest common denominator.
I test people at the front door, if their Germs are Stronger than Mine, I don't let them in my House.

Jim
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:11 pm
by palerider
yahooboy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:54 am
I have used CPAP for more than 15 years. Clean my heated hose about once a month, at the most, sometimes two months go buy before I rinse it out!
Rarely ever clean the humidifier, but do use distilled water. I clean the mask infrequently too.
Never had any respiratory illnesses or mold issues.
I looked at So-Clean and Lumin, and thought it was way overpriced and nothing but fearmongering.
The whole germ thing is an overblown scam.
I am not saying don't clean your machine gear regularly, do whatever you are comfortable with.
I live in a dry climate, so that probably helps me "get away with" less cleaning.
I think the manufacturers say to rinse/clean daily/regularly just to CYA themselves, because there will always be somebody who lives in an environment where mold and germs can grow easier than most other people, so they have to instruct to the lowest common denominator.
Spot on.
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:19 pm
by WARREN_S7__VPAP_III
Maybe it wasn’t his XPAP machine
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:26 am
by Marko2019
Spot on #2 - "fearmongering" is a BIG part of their business plan.
M
Goofproof wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:07 pm
yahooboy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:54 am
I have used CPAP for more than 15 years. Clean my heated hose about once a month, at the most, sometimes two months go buy before I rinse it out!
Rarely ever clean the humidifier, but do use distilled water. I clean the mask infrequently too.
Never had any respiratory illnesses or mold issues.
I looked at So-Clean and Lumin, and thought it was way overpriced and nothing but fearmongering.
The whole germ thing is an overblown scam.
I am not saying don't clean your machine gear regularly, do whatever you are comfortable with.
I live in a dry climate, so that probably helps me "get away with" less cleaning.
I think the manufacturers say to rinse/clean daily/regularly just to CYA themselves, because there will always be somebody who lives in an environment where mold and germs can grow easier than most other people, so they have to instruct to the lowest common denominator.
I test people at the front door, if their Germs are Stronger than Mine, I don't let them in my House.

Jim
Re: NoClean sued for false advertising.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:38 am
by Marko2019
Clearly the FDA needs to get involved - better safe than sorry.
Oh wait, that would be the appropriate and righteous use of our tax dollars. Never mind.
M