djam's therapy thread

[Jay Aitchsee]

Majority of this is the hose tugging on the mask. Woke up multiple times and noted it. Also think I had the straps a little loose - still no soreness this morning.

Here's what I have done to solve the tugging issue. I fastened a suspender clip about halfway down the mask hose with a rubber band. At bedtime, I fasten the clip to my nightshirt at my chest leaving a bit of slack in the mask hose from the clip to the pillows. Now, as I move around, the CPAP hose tugs on my nightshirt but not on the mask.

[djams]

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pugsy? can we make djams the post boy for the forum?

No, I'm NOT going to deliver Pugsy's goody packages all around North America! If there's a package going to Hawaii, let's talk.

POST boy (looks at the 217 and counting posts in the thread) or POSTER boy?

Yeah, I sure do lean on y'all very heavily!

[djams]

Did you put some lanolin on your nose? That can help with getting used to wearing it. But the P10 is about as easy on your nose as any mask can be. The reason I ask is that when I tried the lanolin with the P10 I too saw more leaks than normal. When you can, try wiping the P10 and your nostril area with a wipe before putting it on. This cleans both and sort of makes the mask stick to your skin. Significant difference in leaks for me.

Thanks realshelby. I did use lanolin last night. I'll try tonight without it. Will try out the wipe suggestion too.

I'll tell you though, the main culprit was the hose last night. I was untangling it from the blankets and pillows multiple times. I'll be back to using my swing-arm bedside lamp hose management system tonight. Then I'll know the real leak situation with the leaks

too lazy to page back through, but are you using lansinoh? that's a brand of lanolin. it's used on the p 10 pillows to make guard against developing sore spots on your nose, but it also has a mild tacky feeling to it which helps the seal.

All this stuff is so YMMV

[djams]

Majority of this is the hose tugging on the mask. Woke up multiple times and noted it. Also think I had the straps a little loose - still no soreness this morning.

Here's what I have done to solve the tugging issue. I fastened a suspender clip about halfway down the mask hose with a rubber band. At bedtime, I fasten the clip to my nightshirt at my chest leaving a bit of slack in the mask hose from the clip to the pillows. Now, as I move around, the CPAP hose tugs on my nightshirt but not on the mask.

This is a great suggestion Jay! Thank you!

[palerider]

POST boy (looks at the 217 and counting posts in the thread) or POSTER boy?

Yeah, I sure do lean on y'all very heavily!

Keep it up!

[djams]

POST boy (looks at the 217 and counting posts in the thread) or POSTER boy?

Yeah, I sure do lean on y'all very heavily!

Keep it up!

I surely will!

[Pugsy]

Remember those "pros and cons that come with ALL masks"???
The P10 weighs nothing....that's a big pro....but with the nothing weight comes the fact that it is easily moved around by something pulling ever so slightly on the hose. Especially when we don't have the strap spacing adjusted....or the damn back strap slides up a little.
So that's a big con.

All masks have them and a pro to me might be a big con to the next person and that's why all this cpap stuff comes with that huge YMMV sticker.
And why people just have to try something to see if they like it or hate it.

When I talk about any mask I always try to cover both potential sides whenever I can but you still get my own personal opinion as to what is going on with my own personal preferences, wants and needs. I can't get away from that no matter how hard I try.
It's the way it is for everyone....you get their opinion about something. No guarantee that your opinion will mimic anyone else's opinion.
My main wants, needs and preferences....as little on my face and head as possible...as little weight as possible...minimal straps because my fine beautiful cheeks dent easily and I don't like to look at the dents (and that's with good strap covers).

Which is why I am so interested in the Bleep....no headgear at all...and it weighs next to nothing and I already know that the next to nothing weight is going to mean a chance at a potential con in terms of the mask being glued to the end of the nose and the end of the nose might get tugged on. How much of a con it will end up being...don't know yet but I am betting that it will be a rather small con when compared to the dents on the cheeks which last at least half a day or the bags I get from laying on one side for almost all night and the side that is down get a big fluid filled bag because the strap constricted the fluid distribution.

There's always going to be some pros and cons with ALL masks...it's a given. We just have to decide which pro is worth dealing with what con there might be that comes with that pro.

[zonker]

Majority of this is the hose tugging on the mask. Woke up multiple times and noted it. Also think I had the straps a little loose - still no soreness this morning.

Here's what I have done to solve the tugging issue. I fastened a suspender clip about halfway down the mask hose with a rubber band. At bedtime, I fasten the clip to my nightshirt at my chest leaving a bit of slack in the mask hose from the clip to the pillows. Now, as I move around, the CPAP hose tugs on my nightshirt but not on the mask.

that's a good tip! many years ago i read a post by robysue(wish she would come back/hope she's okay) where she told of training herself to hold the hose in her hand so that when she rolled over, she's have enough slack between hand and hose.

i like your idea better. but i think what i'd do is maybe tie the hose to my bicep with string, as i don't sleep in clothes.

[Pugsy]

i like your idea better. but i think what i'd do is maybe tie the hose to my bicep with string, as i don't sleep in clothes.

Well...heck...you mean that attaching that little clip to your nipple isn't all that appealing????
Can't imagine why you guys wouldn't want to do that.

[djams]

Remember those "pros and cons that come with ALL masks"???

Hope my post this morning didn't come off as complaining about the P10 mask. The problem was clearly me. I've had the hose draped over that swing arm lamp for so long that I forgot how I used to take care of it before I realized "Hey dummy, you should drape the hose over this wall mounted swing arm lamp".

Had a bad 1st night with a new mask. I'm not at all concerned yet.

[djams]

i like your idea better. but i think what i'd do is maybe tie the hose to my bicep with string, as i don't sleep in clothes.

Well...heck...you mean that attaching that little clip to your nipple isn't all that appealing????
Can't imagine why you guys wouldn't want to do that.

C'mon zonker, toughen up! Be a man!

[Pugsy]

Hope my post this morning didn't come off as complaining about the P10 mask.

No...didn't come off like that at all. I just decided to get up on my soapbox for everyone's benefit. I don't always have the time.

One of my pet peeves is someone asking me (or anyone else for that matter) which mask they should try and then they get an attitude with me when it didn't work out so great for them and I (or someone else) get bitched at because they "wasted their money".

FWIW...it took me a full week with the P10 to get it all figured out as to strap position and hose management and all that.
I think you did super good for the first night. The problems were all my doing and it did take me a few changes in things to sort through the problems.
It's not a perfect mask...none of them are but we just have to take the time to sort through the shortcomings if we think its worth working through them.
I have tried some masks that I couldn't even sleep at all with them...no matter what I did.
And the worst experiment with a mask that actually felt decent initially was the Wisp...I lasted all of 90 minutes with it...longest 90 minutes of my life. I slept but with a gazillion awakenings because it totally caused my nose to block up. Woke suffocating and immediately relieved by just pulling the cushion away from the nose briefly...it was all mask pressure congestion and I didn't have it tight at all.

The FitLife total face mask...I never could get that damn thing to stay sealed for even 30 seconds...it never even made the sleep test.
I tried for a full 2hours to get it to halfway work and then threw it across the room and it went back to the donations box. I didn't spend money on it...someone donated it and I had to try it. That's how I try a lot of the other masks that I normally wouldn't be interested in enough to spend my own money on.
The Wisp was per a request from my DME to try it...and with the understanding I could swap it out if I hated it...and I did.
90 minutes and it never touched my face again.

[babydinosnoreless]

Majority of this is the hose tugging on the mask. Woke up multiple times and noted it. Also think I had the straps a little loose - still no soreness this morning.

Here's what I have done to solve the tugging issue. I fastened a suspender clip about halfway down the mask hose with a rubber band. At bedtime, I fasten the clip to my nightshirt at my chest leaving a bit of slack in the mask hose from the clip to the pillows. Now, as I move around, the CPAP hose tugs on my nightshirt but not on the mask.

that's a good tip! many years ago i read a post by robysue(wish she would come back/hope she's okay) where she told of training herself to hold the hose in her hand so that when she rolled over, she's have enough slack between hand and hose.

i like your idea better. but i think what i'd do is maybe tie the hose to my bicep with string, as i don't sleep in clothes.

I've enjoyed the picture, I think it was you, posted with the scrunchi and how you kept your mouth closed. I must however respectfully request you not show us a picture of the aboved mentioned set up.

[zonker]

i like your idea better. but i think what i'd do is maybe tie the hose to my bicep with string, as i don't sleep in clothes.

Well...heck...you mean that attaching that little clip to your nipple isn't all that appealing????
Can't imagine why you guys wouldn't want to do that.

i'm deeply afraid you all will want pictures!

[zonker]

I've enjoyed the picture, I think it was you, posted with the scrunchi and how you kept your mouth closed. I must however respectfully request you not show us a picture of the aboved mentioned set up.

that was MEEEEE! and, dang it, i answered these out of order.

see my reply to pugsy.