Question Concerning Airsense 10 Autoset

I just checked on a few of my local Medicare contract DME's to see what line of products they carry. Where the Airsense 10 is concerned, they all listed their selections as follows:
AIRSENSE 10 AUTOSET CO-PACK
AIRSENSE 10 AUTOSET FOR HER CO-PACK
AIRSENSE 10 AUTOSET FOR HER TRI-PACK
AIRSENSE 10 AUTOSET TRI-PACK
AIRSENSE 10 CPAP CO-PACK
AIRSENSE 10 CPAP TRI-PACK
AIRSENSE 10 ELITE CO-PACK
AIRSENSE 10 ELITE TRI-PACK

As I stated in a previous post, I want the Airsense 10 Autoset Humidair with heated humidity and a heated hose. I know the difference between cpap and apap but what do the "co-pack" and "tri-pack" designations refer to? Since they are all stating the models this way, I want to make sure I use the same language and, of course, get what I want.

Also, could someone who is familiar with this or similar machines tell me approximately how many hours a full humidifier reservoir lasts with a heated hose set to auto and the humidifier set to 5-6? Are we looking at a full night's sleep +/-7hrs.)? thanks

CO is for the Slimline tubing. TRI is for the heated tubing. Heated tubing is recommended.

My recommendation is AIRSENSE 10 AUTOSET FOR HER TRI-PACK.

Comfortably Numb wrote:how many hours a full humidifier reservoir lasts with a heated hose set to auto and the humidifier set to 5-6?

It's going to depend on what the pressure setting is, the vent rate of the mask, the ambient temperature and ambient humidity of the bedroom, the amount of unintentional mask leak and the tidal volume of the patient. The humidifier tanks are sized to last at least eight hours in all but extreme conditions.

xxyzx wrote:sounds like the local DME made up names depending on the settings pixed

CO and TRI are acronyms used by ResMed.

I thought co pak and tri pack referred to how many machines were shipped in one big box...but there is also some wording somehow for shipped with the heated hose or shipped with the non heated slim line hose. So I am not absolutely sure.

Now the humidifier itself...water consumption depends on several factors...most importantly the ambient humidity in your house. If you live in an area that is very arid you will use more water than you would if you lived in a more humid area.
Pressures used and leaks will also affect water consumption.

I have the AirCurve 10 which is the bilevel version of the AirSense 10 you are looking at.
Where I live isn't real dry but it's not horribly humid either humid unless it rains and I prefer pretty much maximum humidity.
I have a little gadget that tells me the ambient humidity in my bedroom and it usually runs 40 to 50% unless it is raining and it will sometimes show 60 to 70%.

Right now I have the humidifier set for 85% (which is probably near what you would get with the setting of 6) and I can get a full 8 hours of use before the water in the tank will get really low. I had it run dry once but I slept 9 hours.
Now when it rains and I have the windows open and the ambient humidity in the house is higher...I might only use half a tank of water at the same settings as above.

You should be able to get 7 plus hours at your stated settings even if you live in an arid environment.
You will probably do like I do and use up almost all the water every night (unless it is raining and you have the windows open) and need to add water each night. Don't panic if the water consumption varies a little because when using the autoset and auto adjusting pressures you might have some nights where the pressure is a little higher (and higher pressures will consume more water) and you might have nights were leaks are worse than other nights and leaks seem to increase water consumption also.

Now I do fill that chamber up so that it is tiny bit over the max line because sometimes I do end up sleeping past 8 hours and I don't like it when the tank goes dry even for a short time. While 30 minutes with no water doesn't seem to cause a huge problem....the tank stinks a bit if heat is applied and no water is in it. I can usually tell if the tank went dry by the smell when I wake up in the morning. It's a bit stinky...hot plastic type of smell.
Now if I happen to forget to top off the tank the night before (I make it part of my nighttime ritual) and I end up going dry in the middle of the night my nasal mucosa will let me know real fast that it doesn't like it. That cpap rhinitis thing I told you about. I don't do it very often but occasionally I forget to add the water and I get a rude reminder why I shouldn't do that.

You will learn real quick how much water usage is normal for you and it depends on several factors with the ambient humidity being the main factor. You should be fine even at maximum humidity setting for probably 8 hours. After that you may run into a bit of trouble if your ambient humidity tends to be on the drier side of things.
When it rains a lot and I have the windows open like now...I might only use 1/4 of the water chamber over 7 to 8 hours but once the humidity drops down to 40s%...it will use almost all the water each night.

You do definitely want the heated hose even if your bedroom isn't cold enough to cause condensation. The heated hose allows for more consistent humidity delivery. What I do is set the humidity to what makes my nose happy and I just alter the hose air temp depending on the season.
In the winter I will use hose air temps in the 80s (I keep a cold bedroom) but in the summer I drop the temp down to upper 60s and all the time the humidity never changes.
I just adjust temp for comfort depending on how warm or cool the house is.

My water tank lasts 8 hrs. Set on humidity of 4, and heated hose set on 71 degrees. On nights it was running dry, I realized my husband had turned off the automatic humidifier we have that is attached to our house heating system.

Those listings with Medicare are mostly bogus. Not because they are false, but because they are incomplete. They may list the whole Resmed line, but carry product for 8 other manufacturers as well. It really confused me when I was searching for a DME that worked with Medicare. If they carry Resmed, you can get ANY Resmed machine.

ChicagoGranny wrote: AIRSENSE 10 AUTOSET FOR HER TRI-PACK

The HCPCS codes used by Medicare and insurance companies:

E0601 - CPAP machine
E0562 - Humidifier
A4604 - Heated Hose

Thought I would share a little update on how long the water in the humidifier might last because I had a chance to really put it to the test last night.
Went to bed at 11:15PM and didn't get up until around 9:30 AM...I was catching up because I only got about 4 hours the night before (out of town and got home really late).
Humidity in the house was round 50% per the little gadget in my bedroom. There was a tiny bit of water left in the water chamber this morning. Tablespoon maybe but enough that the chamber didn't stink with hot plastic smell.

Thanks Pugsy and all of the rest of you who have answered my questions. I would be totally lost right now if not for this forum. I see my doctor next Tuesday and then it's the DME's. By this time next week, I should know if it's going to be Medicare or cpap.com.