FF masks without support on the forehead! A real mystery !!!

Sorry if I did not answer immediately to recent comments but I have a time zone older than 6-7 hours and I fell asleep.
In fact, the headgear does not work well.
It seems pull up and slowly, the mask slips on.
Difficult to find equilibrium of the belts.
if you pull too much the mask goes up; if I do not pull enough great losses. I have also tried it with cotton lining homemade with old t-shirt but it does not help to slip.

I want to try board of SGearhart:

SGearhart wrote:Several users have reported having their mask slide up during the night. They made a strap, using either parts of old head gear or velcro, that will attach to one lower mask strap and go under the chin to the opposite strap.

I hope this may help. (and translate correctly)

Thank you all. you are a great force!

Oltremare wrote: During sleep, both slide towards masks on until the base of the nose, and reach to touch my eyes with much hassle.
I doon't understand why this happens. My nose is not too big. My skin is not too oily.
I spent a lot of money for much hope of comfort but it is not working !!!
Does anyone know why this happens?
Thanks so much.

Here's how I kept my previous FFM from sliding up - it also works as a light duty chinstrap:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=96560&p=894169&hili ... ff#p894169

I didn't have to do this with my newer ResMed F10... can't really say why.

Sir NoddinOff wrote:Here's how I kept my previous FFM from sliding up - it also works as a light duty chinstrap:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=96560&p=894169&hili ... ff#p894169

I didn't have to do this with my newer ResMed F10... can't really say why.

Great idea, really clever!
I also try something similar.
Thank you very much.

I also found the Quattro FX FF to work well, but it did create permanent marks on the bridge of my nose (long-time user). I have tried various cushions, but have not had any success. I don't have trouble with slippage because I wear it snug since my pressure is high. I recently had another sleep study and had the opportunity to try out the Amara View (as suggested by BWexler). It worked great, was smaller and can't leave nose marks, so I will be switching FF masks. If you do end up purchasing another mask, I also suggest taking a look at the Amara View.

ForeverTired wrote:I also found the Quattro FX FF to work well, but it did create permanent marks on the bridge of my nose (long-time user). I have tried various cushions, but have not had any success. I don't have trouble with slippage because I wear it snug since my pressure is high. I recently had another sleep study and had the opportunity to try out the Amara View (as suggested by BWexler). It worked great, was smaller and can't leave nose marks, so I will be switching FF masks. If you do end up purchasing another mask, I also suggest taking a look at the Amara View.

Thanks ForeverTired.
For now I'll have to run the masks that I purchased also because I have just requested a new Mirage Quattro FF to replace the old one that is wearing out.
For me, the Mirage Quattro is a milestone, I can not give up on it.
For the Mirage Quattro FX I followed Your advices and I finally found a good setting. It is a good mask.
For Airfit F10 is not good. There are large leaks around the nose, especially when the face sinks into the pillow.
The cushion material do not like, is not soft and tacky like other masks.
I'd try the Amara View but also the ResMed Mirage Liberty ™ Full Face Mask with CPAP Nasal Pillows but for now stop! I spent too much money for masks.
In the future I will try them.
Thanks to all

I had the same problem with the Respironics ComfortGel full face mask.
I altered my headgear, as there was no small at the time.
Now there is, but your Quattro can use this one: (it comes in a small)
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... -mask.html

chunkyfrog wrote:I had the same problem with the Respironics ComfortGel full face mask.
I altered my headgear, as there was no small at the time.
Now there is, but your Quattro can use this one: (it comes in a small)
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... -mask.html

Chunky Frog can you explain please? (Excuse me, check my signature) ...
With Quattro FX I solved all the problems, I have found the right setting.
I still have problems with Airfit F10.
You think that to solve the problem of Airfit F10 I can use the Ultra Mirage headgear?
This is very interesting! I have an Ultra Mirage that do not use because it is too noisy.

I use the F10. For me, the mask does not ride up so I think it is an individual thing. I use mask liners that I made using a RemZzz liner as a pattern, but I was also using the liners with Quattro Air, my first mask so I don't know if it will make a difference. You did say you tried a liner, so maybe you will have better luck if you try some of the solutions offered here.