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Re: best auto machine?

Post by palerider » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:43 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
palerider wrote: sleepyhead is for people who like to have all their data easily visible and well presented. [/b]
link for sleepyhead is in my sig below
Just the opposite with me. At least I can understand Encore (since that's what I've been using for nearly 10 years) but Sleepyhead looks like gibberish to me.
if you'd like, I can set up a screen sharing and phone call and explain things sometime (at least, to the best of my knowledge )

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Re: best auto machine?

Post by Wulfman... » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:57 pm

palerider wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:
palerider wrote: sleepyhead is for people who like to have all their data easily visible and well presented. [/b]
link for sleepyhead is in my sig below
Just the opposite with me. At least I can understand Encore (since that's what I've been using for nearly 10 years) but Sleepyhead looks like gibberish to me.
if you'd like, I can set up a screen sharing and phone call and explain things sometime (at least, to the best of my knowledge )
In full disclosure, I can't use the Sleepyhead software with my old computers and their data formats. If I could, maybe I could compare the data and see how it applies to the reports I'm familiar with. My exposure is to the reports that have been posted on the forum. I can figure it out, but (for me) it's just not as "simple" as the Encore reports. I've also had my complaints about the "accuracy" of Encore data reporting.......which I also expressed to Respironics back in 2005. (and got nowhere with that complaint)

So, I appreciate your offer, but like I said, I can figure out quite a bit of it now after looking at the reports for the last year or so.......it's just not my preference. And, in my reports, there isn't much to report anymore.......a few snores, a few hypopneas and a rare apnea.......pretty boring.......which is fine with me.


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Re: best auto machine?

Post by Sleeprider » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:14 pm

palerider wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:
palerider wrote: sleepyhead is for people who like to have all their data easily visible and well presented. [/b]
link for sleepyhead is in my sig below
Just the opposite with me. At least I can understand Encore (since that's what I've been using for nearly 10 years) but Sleepyhead looks like gibberish to me.
if you'd like, I can set up a screen sharing and phone call and explain things sometime (at least, to the best of my knowledge )
I'm currently using both. Sleepyhead is fully updated and the one I look at day-to-day. Information is similar, but Sleepyhead is a clear winner in the multiple ways it manipulates and interprets the data. Also, Encore only saves one week of detailed data, and if you ever want to see it again, you need to save that week's report, or it will be overwritten. SH maintains the waveform data that can be examined for every day recorded. Encore gives you only one waveform per download and it's overwritten everytime data is downloaded. It's not even close, and Encore is all I've had until mid-December since I was using a M-Series machine.

I thought I was seeing what I needed, but it turns out I was missing a lot. Since changing equipment I have lowered AHI from the mid 2s and low 3s to the 0 to 1, with OA and HA near zero. CA and RERA was not recorded by the M-Series, and now that is nearly all of my AHI. It kills me to agree with the pailrider but the new tools and machines are far far superior.

For Sleepyinmo, I can't imagine a better outcome. That is a great machine (I use it), and the best, bar-none, that you could be on right now. Good luck, and glad it worked out so well.

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Re: best auto machine?

Post by palerider » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:01 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
palerider wrote:if you'd like, I can set up a screen sharing and phone call and explain things sometime (at least, to the best of my knowledge )
In full disclosure, I can't use the Sleepyhead software with my old computers and their data formats.
I know I just figured, if you were curious, I could walk you through some of them so you the things posted on the forum wouldn't look like so much noise

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Re: best auto machine?

Post by archangle » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:45 am

Sleeprider wrote:Your assertion that "the DME might have some grounds to argue" is particularly troubling. The DME should act as a dispensary to provide the prescribed equipment, a technician to set the equipment according to the doctor's prescription, a trainer of patients to use their equipment, and coordinator with insurance reimbursement, including obtaining compliance data if that is a condition of insurance. A DME arguing about prescribed equipment would be troubling and inconsistent with their role.
For medicine, in many states, if the physician specifies a brand name, the pharmacy may substitute a generic unless the physician specifies "dispense as written." Many insurance policies won't pay for "dispense as written."

If the physician specifies an auto pressure range, there's no argument that it has to be an auto machine. The insurance will require the in-network DME to dispense some sort of Auto machine at the contract price.

The DME is really looking for excuses to dispense a cheaper machine. Specifying a brand name and model gives them another avenue to try to screw the customer out of an auto, or try for an upcharge.

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Re: best auto machine?

Post by Sleeprider » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:18 am

I agree, which is why my original post suggested a specification (auto-titrating) rather than a brand. It seems Resmed and Respironics has the largest share of the DME market with some F&P. Lots of other manufacturers are out there, but they don't seem to come up as often in conversation...Apex, Curative, PMI Probasics,EVI, Puritin Bennett. I have no idea why some of the 'secondary' brands with lower prices are not pushed by the DMEs.

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Re: best auto machine?

Post by palerider » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:33 am

Sleeprider wrote:I have no idea why some of the 'secondary' brands with lower prices are not pushed by the DMEs.
their reps don't take the DME purchasing people out for lunch as much?

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Re: best auto machine?

Post by Wulfman... » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:49 pm

Sleeprider wrote:I agree, which is why my original post suggested a specification (auto-titrating) rather than a brand. It seems Resmed and Respironics has the largest share of the DME market with some F&P. Lots of other manufacturers are out there, but they don't seem to come up as often in conversation...Apex, Curative, PMI Probasics,EVI, Puritin Bennett. I have no idea why some of the 'secondary' brands with lower prices are not pushed by the DMEs.
Don't forget DeVilbiss. I'd rate them ahead of F&P and as #3 in popularity here on the forum. I've never used one, but there are getting to be quite a few users on the forum........and they seem to really like them.


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