Cpap negative side affects

zoocrewphoto · Post by **zoocrewphoto** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:48 am

49er wrote: Excellent point Zoocrew and Krelvin made it previously which I forgot to acknowledge. But my point is which I didn't make very well is that if someone is reporting eye side effects, they shouldn't be blown off, particularly if it is a mask issue.

I agree. It should be considered just as much as any leak that disturbs sleep or messes up therapy, or any pressure issue that is causing a problem with therapy or usage.

AlabamaAl · Post by **AlabamaAl** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:12 am

="palerider"

I mean, I use cpap, and my right wrist is currently hurting and in a brace... should I blame cpap for that? I think it might have been partially due to getting it crooked up against the waterbed frame, while sleeping with cpap...

cpap causes wrist problems!!

Since untreated OSA is a cause of low sex drive, perhaps the treatment of the disease IS the cause of your wrist problems...

Sorry, just couldn't resist...

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:39 am

49er wrote:
palerider wrote:
FrankS wrote:I use a CPAP, and ended up with a corneal scar that gave me double vision and 20-60 vision in one eye.. Fortunately after a trip to Wills-Eye hospital and a leading corneal surgeon, it was corrected.
Now I've begun to experience scarring on my other eye... i hope i don't have to go through this again..
please make some kind of connection between cpap and corneal scarring.!
I can't provide a scientific link from pubmed that cpap usage leads to corneal abrasions but there have been previous reports of this on the forum. I don't know, it is just common sense that if air is leaking from the mask into the eyes, that not much good is going to result long term. Obviously, causation doesn't equal correlation but to blow off side effects, especially when there isn't long term research into them doesn't seem right either.

causation actually does mean correlation, however, correlation does not equal causation, and just because someone gets a corneal scar, while using cpap doesn't mean that there's any connection.

I have no idea why you started talking about scientific links from pubmed and addressed it to me, becuase I said nothing about scientific studies.

I asked the unregistered pot stirrer to provide some kind of logical connection between cpap use and corneal scarring. you're making up stuff, without any data whatsoever, just to be argumentative, I guess.

don't most people close their eyes when asleep? if they do, then a little air from the cpap wouldn't GET to their cornea. if there is so much air coming from the cpap that it's blowing their eyelids open, then ....

if they don't close their eyes, and don't blink while sleeping, then their eyes would dry out, and there could be damage, but that would happen regardless of cpap usage.

again, to the poster alledging this connection, please provide some link. whatifs and guesses from the peanut gallery not needed.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:41 am

AlabamaAl wrote:
="palerider"

I mean, I use cpap, and my right wrist is currently hurting and in a brace... should I blame cpap for that? I think it might have been partially due to getting it crooked up against the waterbed frame, while sleeping with cpap...

cpap causes wrist problems!!
Since untreated OSA is a cause of low sex drive, perhaps the treatment of the disease IS the cause of your wrist problems...

Sorry, just couldn't resist...

*shakes fist* *ouch* *shakes other fist*

jnk... · Post by **jnk...** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:04 am

Wonderbeastlett wrote: . . . her brother was on cpap therapy and now has severe eye damage. . . .

It is important to understand that damage to the eye occurs from untreated OSA, not use of CPAP.

My heart goes out to her brother. It is a shame he did not get diagnosed with OSA and treated with CPAP sooner in order to prevent that eye damage.

http://www.aao.org/publications/eyenet/ ... ensive.cfm

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:29 am

Due to my little bitty nose bridge, the only way I can wear certain nasal masks is with goggles,
as that is the only way to prevent the air stream from coming into my eyes and drying them out so badly
that I have to use saline before I can blink. I would imagine if I were too dumb to use the goggles or switch masks,
my corneas would be plenty damaged. Yes, I can totally see how cpap use could contribute to corneal damage,
but foolishness would be the major cause. If something hurts and you keep doing it, blame yourself!

Julie · Post by **Julie** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:37 am

Air is a very thin thing... and even if your eyes are closed normally (not squeezed shut, not glued shut), air can sneak in when under even a little pressure - maybe it's about face shape, depth of inner corners, etc. - and do damage over time... I haven't had permanent damage as others have, but have certainly felt the effects of the air stream. Maybe you need to have had the experience to get it.

jnk... · Post by **jnk...** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:04 am

"Generally, dry eyes don't cause serious problems, but sometimes excessively dry eyes can lead to damage to the surface of the eye or more frequent eye infections." -- https://www.zocdoc.com/answers/14721/wh ... y-dry-eyes

Janknitz · Post by **Janknitz** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:53 pm

The optometrist told me I have dry eye. I wasn't aware of it. It could be from my leaky old Quattro which was often leaking into my eyes. But I'm also getting OLD and experiencing menopause and things are drying up in general. So how do I know it's not that????

Right now I'm using a whisp which does NOT leak into my eyes. I like it very much as long as my nose isn't stuffy. We'll see if I get a better report when I go next to have my eyes checked.

I was having another issue with the Quattro--it was moving my teeth and causing problems. So the Whisp is solving that, too. Yes, there can be side effects, but most of them are fixable.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:57 pm

Janknitz wrote: Yes, there can be side effects, but most of them are fixable.

probably all better than the side effects of NOT using it!!!

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