S9 Autoset Vs PR60 Series Auto?

I think I finally have found a good DME. XXXX (Fingers crossed!)

He will get me the S9 Autoset I had asked for, but they mainly deal with Respironics. He is trying to talk me into the Respironics. His principle argument for them is their software, Sleep Mapper that I could download and with that not have to go in every few months to the DME to get my card read. The DME says that it's easier on them, which I don't mind if it's equally easy on me. They also have the machine in stock, so I guess if I ever run into any problems and need a loaner, that might be helpful.

Doing a compare between S9 Autoset and the PR60 Series Auto, it seemed the ResMed was a bit quieter, and I don't know enough to make a judgment between AutoSet with Easy Breath and A-Flex. Software is a question mark as well. It seems like the ResMed is used more on this board, but the rating appears about the same.

I'd appreciate any input on my decision. I am talking with my DME tomorrow, and want to make the right decision!

S9 has a few more fans, but both are very nice machines.

Sleep mapper is the Respironics home program and pretty basic stuff - Sleepyhead is what most people in here use and has lots more info and is free and will work with either system. Software should not drive your decision.



This is pretty much all there is - bar charts for Therapy Hours, Mask Fit, and AHI.

See this thread for Robysue's in depth comments about each brand APAP.
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It's pretty much a toss up. If your pressure needs are over 14 cm you might like the S9's exhale relief called EPR just a little better because there's a potential bigger drop during exhale and it is the reduction in pressure that helps so much with the exhale relief. Respironics Flex relief is flow based and the most drop it can see is 2 cm where as the S9 is 3 cm.

ResMed has an online software similar Respironics SleepMapper. It's just about as lame though. Basic data that is pretty much the same as what you can get on the machine's LCD screen. It's called SleepSeeker.
Nothing to get excited about with either.
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Good answers! Thanks! I think the Sleep Tracker software is only useful in my not having to drive 20 minutes each way, every two to three months to get the card read. I'm a researcher, so I know that Sleepyhead would be the route I would use - whether or not I used Sleep Tracker as something just for my DME.

Well, the breathing thing seems big to me. I think they had me titrated for a 10 on a CPAP, which isn't very much I understand. I do have a lot of RERAS. But I'm beginning to have some Mixed Apneas, and I'm a bit of a "Princess and the Pea". Having to breath against pressure is something I really struggle with.

jshuler43 wrote:Good answers! Thanks! I think the Sleep Tracker software is only useful in my not having to drive 20 minutes each way, every two to three months to get the card read. I'm a researcher, so I know that Sleepyhead would be the route I would use - whether or not I used Sleep Tracker as something just for my DME.

Well, the breathing thing seems big to me. I think they had me titrated for a 10 on a CPAP, which isn't very much I understand. I do have a lot of RERAS. But I'm beginning to have some Mixed Apneas, and I'm a bit of a "Princess and the Pea". Having to breath against pressure is something I really struggle with.

With the PRS1 Auto or S9 AutoSet, you can mail in your SD card. No need to take the machine in. The SD card will give them (or you) enormously more valuable data than sleepmapper. Either machine also has an optional cell phone modem that automatically sends data back to the DME. I get the impression most DME's use the modem these days.

The official "real" software for the S9, ResScan blows the doors off of Encore, the PRS1 software. SleepyHead is a bit better than ResScan, other than not being "official," and having a few minor bugs.

The S9 and PRS1 are roughly equal in quality and value to the customer, in my opinion. I like the S9 a little more, but the PRS1 is a close second. Each has minor advantages and disadvantages.

Be sure you don't end up with an S9 Escape Auto, which is MUCH less preferable to the AutoSet.

Side note, it looks like PR is getting rid of the straight CPAP PRO model and the brick PLUS model.
So that will make the lineup: SE (brick), Auto A-flex, Auto Bi-flex, and Auto SV.

Not much of a price difference between Pro and Auto anyway I guess.

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jshuler43 wrote:I think I finally have found a good DME. XXXX (Fingers crossed!)

He will get me the S9 Autoset I had asked for, but they mainly deal with Respironics. He is trying to talk me into the Respironics. His principle argument for them is their software, Sleep Mapper that I could download and with that not have to go in every few months to the DME to get my card read. The DME says that it's easier on them, which I don't mind if it's equally easy on me. They also have the machine in stock, so I guess if I ever run into any problems and need a loaner, that might be helpful.

Doing a compare between S9 Autoset and the PR60 Series Auto, it seemed the ResMed was a bit quieter, and I don't know enough to make a judgment between AutoSet with Easy Breath and A-Flex. Software is a question mark as well. It seems like the ResMed is used more on this board, but the rating appears about the same.

I'd appreciate any input on my decision. I am talking with my DME tomorrow, and want to make the right decision!

I think you need a more Zen approach -- there is no real 'right decision' frankly. Just a less wrong or more right decision. All these machines have pros, all have seriously annoying cons. From a user perspective these boxes are still unfinished works in progress. And at the end of the day, you could buy the cheapest, Chinese made autoset machine (http://1800cpap.com/resmart-auto-cpap-m ... ifier.aspx), and likely still get excellent therapy. They all blow air, and detect and respond to apneas to a relatively accurate extent, and all are heavily regulated medical devices. Some have more bells and whistles and others less, but at the end of the day, they all have roughly similar systems. No, some do not give data, so your therapy may not be easily measured and you may need more frequent follow up titration studies as a result. Or, maybe not. And about EPR systems, guess what, they are all pretty similar (except Fisher Paykel's) and a hair difference you likely will never notice. You, in fact, will never notice because DMEs don't allow you to notice. You get one box. In five more years, they may give you another box. Then you can compare. But no one I have heard of gives loaner machines to try from the start. So if you get an S9 to start, you will likely like S9s. If you get a PR 560 you will likely like PR560s... Because you will never know anything different.... In fact, you could be given a black box with no label on it, and frankly, without even knowing what brand it is, probably like it just fine.

Some things are personal preferences, like preferring the top swivel hose outlet on the 560 or the color display on the S9, or the fact the 560 is made in the US and the S9 is not, etc.... But therapy wise? They all do an excellent job. Plus they all have serious omissions -- no clock or alarm on any except the Fisher Paykels. Dumb designs. And sometimes they have wonky software and no easy way to update the firmware on any of them. All xPAPs are needing improvement from a consumer perspective.

You will not go wrong with a 560, or an S9 (or another brand machine for that matter). The point is to use them consistently. Just relax and breathe deeply.... The mask part is where things get far more complicated.

As long as you get one of these, either the ResMed S9 Autoset or the Philips Respironics S1 560, you should be fine. I have the PR S1 560 & love it. If I could have chosen between them, I would have gotten the ResMed S9, but circumstances took that choice out of the picture.

I would like to strongly recommend that you STAY AWAY from the F&P Icon. Its cute & has a clock, big deal. The other 2 machines are much better value for your money IMHO. I have an Icon & use it as a backup machine, but the data is inferior to the other two. Just wanted to throw that out there in case someone tries to sell you one based on the 'cute on the nightstand' & 'has a cute clock' line like a used car salesman. I fell for that line once, before I found this forum.

Jen