New to this and about to purchase a BiPAP

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mrwatkin
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New to this and about to purchase a BiPAP

Post by mrwatkin » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:06 pm

I have a prescription for a Respironics PRO 660 BiPAP machine. After finding that the local dealers were trying to overcharge the heck out of me, I decided to buy online. The doctors office even decided to provide me some links since I am paying for this totally on my own. I'd like to know about how much I should end up spending in total (BiPAP + accessories + humidifier). Also, is the ResMed S9 a better option? If yes, then why? How much would I pay for that (with shipping)? I'm on a budget and wouldn't like to go over 2 grand. The local dealer out here went way over that. I'll be making my purchase very soon because, according to the sleep study, I stopped breathing 115 times within 1 hour. Thanks for any and all responses.
Machine: PR System One REMStar 60 Series BiPAP Pro with Bi-Flex
Mask: ResMed Quattro Air Full Face Mask
Humidifier: PR System One Heated Humidifier
Additional: IPAP/EPAP=21cm/15cm

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Re: New to this and about to purchase a BiPAP

Post by STL Mark » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:17 pm

Welcome to the forum. I am offering the following two machines that would be good choices for you. Let me know if you have questions or would like references.

Phillips/Respironics System One REMStar 60 Series BiPAP Auto with Bi-Flex with zero hours DS760. This is a new unit that has never been used. It is in perfect condition with the heated humidifier, humidifier tank, hose, power supply, SD card and travel case. The unit has never been exposed to a smoking environment. I will provide free shipping to a US address, or at cost shipping outside the US. References available upon request. $600

If you would prefer you can add the upgraded power supply, conversion for humidifier and heated hose. Click Here to order this kit from cpap.com for $75. If you are buying the unit and want this installed for you I will be glad to order it (from cpap.com) and install it prior to shipping for only the cost of the kit.

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ResMed S9 VPAP Auto with zero hours is available. This is a new unit that has never been used. It is in perfect condition with the H5i humidifier, humidifier tank, ClimateLine Max and Slimline hoses, power supply, SD card and travel case. The unit has never been exposed to a smoking environment. I will provide free shipping to a US address, or at cost shipping outside the US. References available upon request. $1050

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Mode: ASVAuto, Min EPAP: 4, Max EPAP: 15, Min PS: 3, Max PS: 15, Ramp: Off - Original Titration: 18

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Re: New to this and about to purchase a BiPAP

Post by SleepWellCPAP » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:19 pm

Taking nothing away from the expertise of your prescribing physician, before you spend your money it might be wise to post the details from your sleep study. A standard bilevel might work perfect, but then again, spending a few extra dollars on an auto bipap might be better strategy.

There are quite a few sleep lab experts here who would be able to assist in the initial recommendation. Overall I have found ResMed auto bipaps work best, but that's not 100%.

I know this isn't much of an answer to start with. Sorry about that, but without more details it's hard to make a recommendation. How many events did you have? What are your prescribed pressures? Lots and lots to consider for sure.
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Re: New to this and about to purchase a BiPAP

Post by Pugsy » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:26 pm

I have owned and used both brands of bilevel machines...the PR S1 BiPap and the ResMed S9 VPAP....minor pros and cons with either but with the 60 series PR S1 heated hose...pretty much leveled the playing field.
It's a toss up. I liked both pretty much equally.

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Re: New to this and about to purchase a BiPAP

Post by mrwatkin » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:30 pm

If I get an auto BiPAP/VPAP, does it provide a feature to turn off the "auto" mode?
Machine: PR System One REMStar 60 Series BiPAP Pro with Bi-Flex
Mask: ResMed Quattro Air Full Face Mask
Humidifier: PR System One Heated Humidifier
Additional: IPAP/EPAP=21cm/15cm

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Re: New to this and about to purchase a BiPAP

Post by STL Mark » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:11 pm

mrwatkin wrote:If I get an auto BiPAP/VPAP, does it provide a feature to turn off the "auto" mode?
Yes,

The DS760 has three different modes, CPAP, BiLevel, AutoB. In BiLevel mode it becomes equal to the features of a DS660.
The VPAP Auto has three different modes, CPAP, S, VAuto. In S mode it becomes equal to a S9 VPAP S.

Your other option with either machine in Auto mode is to set PS = 0.

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Mode: ASVAuto, Min EPAP: 4, Max EPAP: 15, Min PS: 3, Max PS: 15, Ramp: Off - Original Titration: 18

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Re: New to this and about to purchase a BiPAP

Post by RandyJ » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:22 pm

STL Mark wrote:
Your other option with either machine in Auto mode is to set PS = 0.
Is this a new feature of the 760? The 750 has the default PS of 2 when you turn on machine in auto mode.

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Re: New to this and about to purchase a BiPAP

Post by STL Mark » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:31 pm

RandyJ wrote:
STL Mark wrote:
Your other option with either machine in Auto mode is to set PS = 0.
Is this a new feature of the 760? The 750 has the default PS of 2 when you turn on machine in auto mode.
I got out the 760 and played with the settings. It does indeed default to Min PS 2.0 and Max PS 8.0. It does allow both to be changed from the defaults downward to zero. I don't have a 750 to compare it to.

I did notice when returning it to default settings you had to do Max PS first, it will not allow Min PS to change from 0 if Max PS = 0.

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Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
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Mode: ASVAuto, Min EPAP: 4, Max EPAP: 15, Min PS: 3, Max PS: 15, Ramp: Off - Original Titration: 18

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Re: New to this and about to purchase a BiPAP

Post by Pugsy » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:37 pm

RandyJ wrote:Is this a new feature of the 760? The 750 has the default PS of 2 when you turn on machine in auto mode.
Yes, and new feature being PS minimum and maximum instead of a single max PS (where the default is 2 while awake and max roams to where you set it).... and you can also set PS minimum to equal PS maximum and make it function like the S9 VPAP in Auto Bilevel mode.

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