Machine to be LOWER than sleeping Height ??

pratzert · Post by **pratzert** » Fri May 19, 2006 5:47 pm

I am setting up my Remstar Auto Machine and noted that the instructions say to place the machine "LOWER" than my sleeping height.

Is this strictly to help avoid Rainout problems or is there some other reason it should be at a lower position ?

My Night stand is about at the same level as the bed mattress.

Thanks, Tim

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Fri May 19, 2006 6:49 pm

That is the main concern, S__T runs downhill, it is easyer for mosture to run down the hose into the interface with the machine above the bed, it also doesn't have as far to fall when you knock it off a low table. However if it's on the floor, Dust Bunnys will lay eggs in your filters. Jim

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pratzert · Post by **pratzert** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:11 pm

QUOTE: it also doesn't have as far to fall when you knock it off a low table.
UNQUOTE.

Oh-Ya.... That is something I got concerned about as soon as I set my new baby on the night stand.

Hmmm... I wonder how it will be before I yank this thing off the night stand and onto the floor.... Bye-Bye $800 !

Maybe that's why some people tie their hose to the headboard.

I tried draping my hose on the top of the headboard ( NO JOKES PLEASE ) and it it was a little "short" ( YES.... I SAID NO JOKES PLEASE ).

I know there are longer hoses, but I'll try fooling around with my hose for a while. ( All Right - If you Insist - Maybe ONE Joke )

Tim

Offerocker · Post by **Offerocker** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:17 pm

Quote from my ResMed User Manual: "Always place the humidifier at the same level or lower than the XPAP (sic) and the mask so that any excess condensation in the tubing drains back into the water chamber."

So, get out your level, place humidifier (with or without machine, as applicable), where you think would be in line with your head. Then place head on pillow, with mask in place. Take your hand-dandy level, and position it so that one end is at the end of your nose, and other end is at the 'blow-hole' of the humidifier.

Hopefully, you have a helper to let you know where that bubble is on the level, so you know whether to either lower the humidifier, or add another pillow.

Or, put it on the nightstand and forget about it. Or on the floor, and remember where it is in the morning so you don't step on it.

Another quote from this marvelous manual: "Before each use, examine the flexible tubing for any damage or debris" hack, hack, yucky-poo, what the heck? I don't think I have any mice!!

pratzert · Post by **pratzert** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:22 pm

[quote="Offerocker"]Or on the floor, and remember where it is in the morning so you don't step on it. quote]

I'd like to put in on the floor but I do worry about two things...

1.) My short hose... ( Go Ahead... say it... )

2.) All of the dust etc. on the floor. Don't want to clog the filter, nor
breath it.

Maybe I should get a 10 foot hose. Anyone else found it necessary to purchase a longer hose ?

Thanks, Tim

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Offerocker · Post by **Offerocker** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:37 pm

Hey, nothing wrong with a short hose, if you know how to work it. Same for a long one. Mine is 6 feet, plenty enough that I can keep it over my head and roll from side to side, or keep it under the covers it I want. All of this depends on if you sleep on the edge of the bed, or smack in the middle of a king size one. Or, better yet, if you've got it slung over a bed partner.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:59 pm

[quote="pratzert"]QUOTE: it also doesn't have as far to fall when you knock it off a low table.
UNQUOTE.

Oh-Ya.... That is something I got concerned about as soon as I set my new baby on the night stand.

Hmmm... I wonder how it will be before I yank this thing off the night stand and onto the floor.... Bye-Bye $800 !

Maybe that's why some people tie their hose to the headboard.

I tried draping my hose on the top of the headboard ( NO JOKES PLEASE ) and it it was a little "short" ( YES.... I SAID NO JOKES PLEASE ).

I know there are longer hoses, but I'll try fooling around with my hose for a while. ( All Right - If you Insist - Maybe ONE Joke )

Tim

chdurie2 · Post by **chdurie2** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:33 pm

actually, mine is on the floor, under the bed, with the front part where the buttons and hose-connect are, just under the ledge of my bed, so that i can easyily reach them. my filters are clean as a whistle, to use an unfortunate cliche, as it seems that the dust does not reach into the machine to gain access to the filters. the filter screen seems to guard the filters well. i changed them last in february, and it does not look like they will again need changing for a long time.

caroline

GoofyUT · Post by **GoofyUT** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:41 am

Tim-
There's an important safety issue about keeping the Remstar/HH LOWER than the level of your head; that is, if some mishap occurs while you are sleeping and the HH reservoir should happen to spill or otherwise be disrupted, you don't need to worry that somehow, that pint of heated water will travel through the hose to your mask and scald your face or else, cause you to aspirate the water and then drown. If you're "uphill" from the Remstar/HH, your protected from this rare but catastrophic possibility.

Chuck

gecko1977a · Post by **gecko1977a** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:36 am

are you serious??

Snoozin' Bluezzz · Post by **Snoozin' Bluezzz** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:41 am

Even at Heating level 5 my HH does not raise the water temperature to anywhere near scalding levels, or even uncomfortable levels. Either my HH is defective or you have a "super" heated humidifier.

My personal opinion is that, given the design of my Remstar humidifier, it would also be pretty difficult to aspirate enough water this way to cause anything other than a very rude, perhaps frightening awakening with a coughing fit. If you have other health problems this could be dangerous I suppose.

I imagine that if it were tipped over towards me and remained "high" the contents of the resevoir could cascade down the hose but I find that pretty unlikely and even then it is not all that much water.

I think the main reason that it is recommended to keep the xPAP below bed level is to manage the rainout problem but, of course, I could be wrong.

David

Linda3032 · Post by **Linda3032** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:47 pm

gecko1977a wrote:are you serious??

...... He got you!

Tim, I put my machine in the bottom drawer of the nightstand, and just leave the drawer out about 6-8 inches. The filters stay clean, you can't step on it, and it's out of the way.

dllfo · Post by **dllfo** » Sun May 21, 2006 3:00 pm

Thanks Linda.....me too. Right now. My unit was on the headboard...above
me. But the hose looped below my head, hopefully would trap water there...
BUT putting it in a drawer is a great idea...Thanks.......

I just clicked on the smiling icon to the left of the message area...let's see if
it appears after the word thanks.......

Linda3032 · Post by **Linda3032** » Sun May 21, 2006 5:46 pm

If you are referring to icons sometimes not showing, you need to type something after an icon - otherwise it won't show.

krousseau · Post by **krousseau** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:49 pm

My HH doesn't get hot enough to scald-even on highest temp. That is probably good since the plastic components are so close to the heat source.

My manual says not to put it over your head so it doesn't fall on your head-but that is about hitting your head not scalding it.

I put strips of industrial velcro on the shelf of my bedside table and on the bottom of the blower so it won't slide

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