Cold Air... question

The air that comes from the hose near your mouth... it's COLD... either hits my shoulders or arms... and hard to tuck myself under the covers to get away from the air. Can't image what it will be like in the Winter!

Anyone solve this one? Thanks.

ems wrote:The air that comes from the hose near your mouth... it's COLD... either hits my shoulders or arms... and hard to tuck myself under the covers to get away from the air. Can't image what it will be like in the Winter!

Anyone solve this one? Thanks.

I find that the air feels colder through nasal pillows than it does from a nasal mask.

The air should be the same temperature as room air. It must just be the wind chill factor that makes it seem colder.

Heated humidification or a heated hose may help.

I use a Swift FX and LT and even though I use a humidifier and heated tubing, the air exhaust is a little chilly. Not sure how it blows on your shoulders, but I sleep on my arm sometimes and have to adjust my sheet so it blocks the air.

I have less trouble when running the tubing over my head and attach to my PapCap chinstrap, which wasn't purchase for that reason, but it helps a lot.

Cheers,
xena

Sometimes where the air intake is makes a difference. For example, during the middle of winter, I position the air intake so it is away from the outside wall. Our house is well insulated. But there is just a little cooler air along the wall. So, if you point the air intake to be away from the wall (and away from the bed), it might be a bit warmer. Hope that helps.

Will be giving all your suggestions a try - for sure! Thank you.

I have the opposite problem. All the air involved with my pap machine is warm. The air coming out of the mask, the air going into my face. It's all warm and it makes it so hard to sleep. I can't sleep in all the warmth

FishOil wrote:I have the opposite problem. All the air involved with my pap machine is warm. The air coming out of the mask, the air going into my face. It's all warm and it makes it so hard to sleep. I can't sleep in all the warmth

Fish... I'm sure someone who really knows about this will come along... but my uneducated guess is that it has something to do with your humidifier.

Edit: Please put your equipment in your signature... thanks. People will want to know what you are using.

ems wrote:

FishOil wrote:I have the opposite problem. All the air involved with my pap machine is warm. The air coming out of the mask, the air going into my face. It's all warm and it makes it so hard to sleep. I can't sleep in all the warmth

Fish... I'm sure someone who really knows about this will come along... but my uneducated guess is that it has something to do with your humidifier.

Edit: Please put your equipment in your signature... thanks. People will want to know what you are using.

Ooo sorry didn't know, I just registered. I'll get on that

My houde has central a/c that I run at 76 degrees, but I hace a 10,000 btu a/c in the bedroom I run at 66 degrees, I'd run it colder but that's as low as it will go, in the winter I turn off the heat to the bedroom and still some nights run the a/c. Cold is Good. Jim

ems wrote:The air that comes from the hose near your mouth... it's COLD... either hits my shoulders or arms... and hard to tuck myself under the covers to get away from the air. Can't image what it will be like in the Winter!

Anyone solve this one? Thanks.

Ah, the fearsome jet engine exhaust flow from the Swift FX strikes again.

That jet flow of air also has a tendency to bounce off covers and back into your eyes or your lips or your chest. And yes, in the wintertime it can be fiercely cold. And for me, it gave me horrible problems with chapped lips all last winter and even now, I still have to do serious lip care to keep them from getting rechapped every single night.

My solutions?

1) A rat-lab air diffuser designed by a forum member. (Thanks HoseCrusher!) There are several different ones that folks have come up with. You can search for them.

2) Sleeping in my hubby's thick, plush robe that's big enough to wrap around me and still provide wiggle room. I had a double thickness of the robe on my chest all winter long. Don't need it now, but it will be interesting to see what happens when fall returns.

3) Sleeping with my head completely under the covers. This seems to minimize the tendency of the exhaust flow to reflect off the covers and back onto me. Note that pre-cpap I liked sleeping with my head under the covers, but would (obviously) have to keep stirring around and coming up for air periodically. With the hose on my nose, I get a nice personal supply of fresh air delivered right to my nose all night long. And I find that I don't arouse to come up for air any more. That wound up being one of the earliest things that I could list as a "positive" about my machine during the dark days of my very long adjustment period.

The darn exhaust from the swift fx is nearly inescapable because of the angle of the vent holes. But, if you hang the hose over your head from a hose hanger, the arctic blast points up toward the ceiling--much better!

FishOil wrote:I have the opposite problem. All the air involved with my pap machine is warm. The air coming out of the mask, the air going into my face. It's all warm and it makes it so hard to sleep. I can't sleep in all the warmth

I'm with you, FishOil. I don't like to breathe swamp air all night. If I turn my humidifier off and just use passover, I wake up dry as a bone, but on the lowest level of humidification I feel as though I'm suffocating in swampy air. I wish there was a better way to humidify without heat.

And, yeah, the exhaust air is annoying, more so in the winter.

Geeze... the things we have to do to make this all bearable! It's a challenge!

Thanks for all the suggestions. But, sleeping with my head under the covers... don't think that would work for me.

The problem I've noticed on cool nights when I am breathing in cooler air, is it seems to have an effect on my lungs. In the morning when I wake up, my chest and lungs feel tight, and I have upper back pain and I've never experienced this until I got my machine. When it's really bad, it's difficult to take in a deep breath for a little while until I'm breathing in warmer air. Not looking forward to the winter.

Geeze... the things we have to do to make this all bearable! It's a challenge!

I second that!

I'm with you, FishOil. I don't like to breathe swamp air all night

That must be something unique to Remstar BiPAPs because the airflow from my PR S1 Auto is NEVER even remotely warm, even in classic mode set at 5. The best I can hope for is that the air isn't arctic blast cold--in classic mode I get not quite freezing cold air. And yes, my humidifier does work fine and the plate even gets warm in classic mode when turned all the way up. I do love the cool air in the summer, but the exhaust vent blast in the winter is not so nice.

The problem I've noticed on cool nights when I am breathing in cooler air, is it seems to have an effect on my lungs. In the morning when I wake up, my chest and lungs feel tight, and I have upper back pain and I've never experienced this until I got my machine. When it's really bad, it's difficult to take in a deep breath for a little while until I'm breathing in warmer air. Not looking forward to the winter.

Ameriken, I would guess this is more from breathing out against pressure--do you have your flex settings turned down? It can also be a result of aerophagia. Also, search for "Respironics humidifier classic mode" to learn how to get a little more heat from the humidifier (but as I say above, not much).