Strapparatus Is No Longer A Member Of CPAPtalk.com

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Post by Sleeprider » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:22 pm

jnk wrote:Sleeprider, how's your dog's AHI now that he's joined us? Oh, you didn't mean your dog has joined cpaptalk.com--you meant Mr. Strap-dude's Yorkie jumping on the couch, didn't you? Never mind.

I hope we don't all get sued for watching that video!
LOL, glad you got it. Very good summary of the moderation approach used here.
I'm afraid my dog has never taken to CPAP therapy and continues to disrupt our sleep with his snoring.

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Post by jnk » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:54 pm

GumbyCT wrote:
jnk wrote:At least they make it easy to follow the money: http://www.sleepapnea.org/donors/index.html
So who here honestly thinks those members donors honestly do NOT want ANY patients to learn how to adjust the pressure on the donors equipment? Honestly now does that make any sense?
I do.

B&M DMEs are their biggest customer.

You don't offend your biggest customer.

That's the system.

That's who we're fighting.

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Post by Goofproof » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:03 pm

Sleeprider wrote:
jnk wrote:Sleeprider, how's your dog's AHI now that he's joined us? Oh, you didn't mean your dog has joined cpaptalk.com--you meant Mr. Strap-dude's Yorkie jumping on the couch, didn't you? Never mind.

I hope we don't all get sued for watching that video!
LOL, glad you got it. Very good summary of the moderation approach used here.
I'm afraid my dog has never taken to CPAP therapy and continues to disrupt our sleep with his snoring.

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Post by jnk » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:56 am

jnk wrote:
GumbyCT wrote:
jnk wrote:At least they make it easy to follow the money: http://www.sleepapnea.org/donors/index.html
So who here honestly thinks those members donors honestly do NOT want ANY patients to learn how to adjust the pressure on the donors equipment? Honestly now does that make any sense?
I do.

B&M DMEs are their biggest customer.

You don't offend your biggest customer.

That's the system.

That's who we're fighting.
Gumby,

Don't you think maybe Cyndi explains the connection the best? :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcj-f11 ... re=related

Go, Brooklyn Girl, Go!

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Post by WearyOne » Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:10 pm

Don't know if Strapparatus is still reading any of this, but I do have some helpful suggestions. Now, he may not see them that way, but that's honestly what they are. I've run my own business for over 14 years. I transcribe audio and video files, including marketing focus groups.

Professionalism is very important, no matter what you're selling.

Video. You may have been trying to be more personable by sitting on your couch and having your dog join you, but you seemed very awkward, especially when you were trying to balance things in your lap. You needed a table. You needed your dog out of the video (and I LOVE dogs). You needed to practice your script beforehand. Your product may be wonderful, but this video does not portray that. To have confidence in a product (or service) the potential customer needs to have confidence in the person selling it.

Marketing. Companies often hire marketing companies to hold focus groups to get others' honest opinions on what they are planning to do. The marketing person always tells the group that they want honest opinions, whether negative or positive, so they can give the client helpful information on the best way to sell the product, service, or whatever. You have to take the positive and the negative, even if it means changing something about your product or service that you thought was fantastic. I went into my business 14 years ago heading in one direction, but I changed that direction completely when I realized the client need out there was different than I thought.

Companies pay thousands and thousands of dollars to get the opinions of others--in focus groups, for example, not only is the company holding the focus groups paid, but the participants are paid, too. Putting out a product here and asking for opinions is free. Some folks here have a rather blunt (and sometimes rude) way of voicing their opinions sometimes, but that's life, I've learned. Making enemies of, or at least extremely aggravating, people in your market niche by some of the things said and done here is not smart, no matter who is right or wrong. (You've heard the saying: #1 The customer is always right. #2 If the customer is wrong, see #1.) Take the good, the bad, the positive, and the negative and learn from it all.

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Post by GumbyCT » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:13 pm

jnk wrote:
jnk wrote:
GumbyCT wrote:
jnk wrote:At least they make it easy to follow the money: http://www.sleepapnea.org/donors/index.html
So who here honestly thinks those members donors honestly do NOT want ANY patients to learn how to adjust the pressure on the donors equipment? Honestly now does that make any sense?
I do.

B&M DMEs are their biggest customer.

You don't offend your biggest customer.

That's the system.

That's who we're fighting.
Gumby,

Don't you think maybe Cyndi explains the connection the best? :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcj-f11 ... re=related

Go, Brooklyn Girl, Go!
What was Cyndi doing on top of that guy towards the end?

I will agree that the "Love of money changes people". I have seen it with my own eyes. Tho I have been told that we can't take it with us. Will you take a check?

Re: "ASAA" - If you told me ASAA was a collection of doctors and DME's who felt they would loose a dime if/when a patient by-passed any billing opportunity then I would agree - the "Smell of money changes everything".

Call me naive but I don't believe it the manufacturers.

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Post by nosenabook » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:25 pm

I learned a couple things from this thread; first about the strap-dude guy controversy, and second, the reason I haven't joined or even bookmarked any other CPAP site! I never stuck around long enough to find interesting content.

The controversy was entertainment, thanks to many posts.
And now I say with the others, thanks so much for this forum. I'm not sure what I'd learn from advertisers, but I am sure it wouldn't be worthy of much trust.

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Post by jnk » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:33 pm

GumbyCT wrote: . . . Call me naive but I don't believe it the manufacturers.
I won't call you naive, if you don't call me cynical. Deal?

But can anyone explain to me why the Internet sales are now price-controlled BY THE MANUFACTURERS, if not to appease the B&M DMEs? We, the users, are not being put first because we are not the big customers. The manufacturers could care less. They don't even care if their machines are used, as long as they are being sold. It is obvious to me whom they ARE putting first--the ones who benefit most from Internet price-controls, the B&M DMEs. To me, THAT connection is THE connection when it comes to "following the money."

Then again, maybe I have it all wrong. I don't know. I am wrong a lot.

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Post by GumbyCT » Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:36 pm

jnk wrote:
GumbyCT wrote: . . . Call me naive but I don't believe it the manufacturers.
I won't call you naive, if you don't call me cynical. Deal?
Tell me what is wrong with being cynical? I wear that badge with honor

So open Johnny case # $$

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