Drey Mouth- Dry Throat

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Drey Mouth- Dry Throat

Post by Barnaby » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:27 pm

So I think I am back as Barnaby and not "guest" thanks to Mr. Goodman.
and I am still with the dry throat and dry mouth in the early morning hours if I awaken around 4 tto 8 AM... I am fine if I happen to awaken around 2 or 3 am. I have tried moving the dial for the humidifier up and down taping the mouth and getting the chin straps (2) tried the half and ff masks and still use the swift nasal pillows as my favorite and also used nasarel spray before bedtime. What is there left to try. Rested ...I have tried all the suggestions that you and others made...what else can I do

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Post by NeurosurgeryNP » Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:43 pm

My suggestion to you:

Get the Aussie Heated Hose, and crank up your humidifier to the highest setting. The heated hose will prevent rainout.

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Post by johnnygoodman » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:08 pm

Howdy,

Great to see you logged in!!!

There's new technology available that isn't getting enough press but is a big deal, like C-Flex big:

https://www.cpap.com/cpap-humidification.php


Here are the basics on Humidification:

https://www.cpap.com/cpap-faq/Humidifiers.html#65


Here's the product that has it:

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/fisher ... -cpap.html


Cheers,
Johnny


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Post by rested gal » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:52 am

Hi Barnaby,

Glad you got your good name restored!

Bless your heart...you're really trying. I think NeurosurgeryNP is giving you the best advice. Excellent advice, in fact.

The Aussie heated hose from http://www.sleepzone.com.au


You already have an autopap machine. The machine in Johnny's link is a straight cpap. Nothing wrong with that, but you already have a wonderful machine. You already have a heated humidifier. The Aussie heated hose could possibly make the final bit of difference in how much humidification actually reaches you.

Even if you haven't been getting rainout, the warm air from your humidifier is cooling and losing some of its moisture on the long trip through the 6 foot hose. Using the Aussie heated hose will let the humidified air travel the entire way to you.

Do you think there's any chance at all that when you taped your mouth, the tape was coming loose at an edge or two before morning? It would be most unusual to get a very dry mouth if tape were securely keeping the air from escaping through the lips.

I noticed that you mentioned having two humidifiers. One that you listed is the Humidaire 2i. I hope that's not the humidifier you're using ...unlikely that it is, since for equipment you have the REMstar Auto with C-Flex and heated humidifier that goes with the Respironics REMstar.

Just in case you are using a ResMed machine with the Humidaire 2i heated humidifier, that particular humidifier doesn't have a very good reputation on the message boards for putting out enough humidification for many people. The 2i that I used with the ResMed Spirit didn't produce anywhere near as much heated humidification as other heated humidifiers I've used. Not even when it was cranked up to the highest heat setting.

Is there anyone who can watch you while you sleep...someone who could really stay awake until morning? I'd still strongly suspect mouth air leaks as being the culprit for dry mouth.

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drey mouth-dry throat

Post by Barnaby » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:00 am

The fact is that I use a s7 with the built in humidaire 2....and it seems that rested and Mr. Goodman seem to focus on the humidity level being to low and that is why I need to get a heated hose. My home is 24/7 under central air conditioning here in So. Fla .....the house is getting down to a setting of 73 degrees when i go to bed. It will be at 76 the rest of the day. So I would assume that the house is very de-humidified all the time.
Lots of water is discharged from the AC all day and night thru the outside drain. I wonder who will pay for the hose? I left a call for my tech to call and I will learn later today.

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drey mouth-dry throat

Post by Barnaby » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:01 am

The fact is that I use a s7 with the built in humidaire 2....and it seems that rested and Mr. Goodman seem to focus on the humidity level being to low and that is why I need to get a heated hose. My home is 24/7 under central air conditioning here in So. Fla .....the house is getting down to a setting of 73 degrees when i go to bed. It will be at 76 the rest of the day. So I would assume that the house is very de-humidified all the time.
Lots of water is discharged from the AC all day and night thru the outside drain. I wonder who will pay for the hose? I left a call for my tech to call and I will learn later today.

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Post by WAFlowers » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:14 am

Here in central Florida my daytime house temp is 77 and we only drop it to 76 at night during the summer (plus ceiling fans in each room). However it is so dehumidified that I really feel the effect of the dry air.

The past week I've been having difficulty getting enough humidification without rainout, so yesterday I ordered one of the Aussie heated hoses. In a week or so look for a post on my experience, or PM me if I forget.

I expect wonderful things based on all previous reports I've read.

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Post by LDuyer » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:45 pm

WAFlowers wrote:Here in central Florida my daytime house temp is 77 and we only drop it to 76 at night during the summer (plus ceiling fans in each room). However it is so dehumidified that I really feel the effect of the dry air.
Oh fine, rub it in, all that good weather. Sun, beaches, boating, fishing, swimming, sunbathing, frolicking on the beach. What kind of life is that? Hmmm? I think you've had enough. Could we trade?



Linda

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Post by WAFlowers » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:51 pm

Trade? Not on your life! I had to put up with Canada for 40 years to earn the right to this life!
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Post by rested gal » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:02 pm

Barnaby, the Humidaire 2i humidifier may be the problem:

From my post above -
Just in case you are using a ResMed machine with the Humidaire 2i heated humidifier, that particular humidifier doesn't have a very good reputation on the message boards for putting out enough humidification for many people. The 2i that I used with the ResMed Spirit didn't produce anywhere near as much heated humidification as other heated humidifiers I've used. Not even when it was cranked up to the highest heat setting.
All the other integrated heated humidifiers seem to work well. I haven't tried the newer 3i that ResMed designed for their S8 machines, though.

Actually, the humidifier I'd buy instead of any integrated ones, is the F&P HC 150 heated humidifier. It can be used with any machine, so if a person switched machines from ResMed to Puritan Bennett to Respironics, the F&P humidifier could handle each one. Save money in the long run not having to buy an integrated humidifier that would work only with its one brand of machines. The F&P HC150 humidifier also just happens to work great.