s8 elite II Data question?

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
csellebrecht
Posts: 46
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:44 pm

s8 elite II Data question?

Post by csellebrecht » Sat May 23, 2009 11:54 pm

I have read many posts about the Elite II only reporting AHI up to a presure of 9, can someone please shed some more light on this subject. Does this mean anything after a presure setting of 9 the data is unreliable?

Thanks

User avatar
billbolton
Posts: 2264
Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:46 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Re: s8 elite II Data question?

Post by billbolton » Sun May 24, 2009 12:27 am

csellebrecht wrote:I have read many posts about the Elite II only reporting AHI up to a presure of 9, can someone please shed some more light on this subject.
I have no idea which posts you are referring to, so no I can't shed any light on why you have formed that point of view.

However, an S8 Elite II will reliably report AHI efficacy data at any titration pressure that it is capable of being set to (4cms H2O to 20cms H2O).

Cheers,

Bill

_________________
MachineMask
Additional Comments: Airmini, Medistrom Pilot 24, CMS 60C Pulse Oximeter, ResScan 6

User avatar
dsm
Posts: 6996
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:53 am
Location: Near the coast.

Re: s8 elite II Data question?

Post by dsm » Sun May 24, 2009 12:51 am

csellebrecht wrote:I have read many posts about the Elite II only reporting AHI up to a presure of 9, can someone please shed some more light on this subject. Does this mean anything after a presure setting of 9 the data is unreliable?

Thanks
To be perfectly blunt, any such comments about the Resmed e.g. re above 9 CMs there is no reliable info, are blatant marketing misinformation that some people spread directly or indirectly here at cpaptalk.com this has to stop !.

All major brands deserve equal support be it Respironics or Resmed or Puritan Bennett. Garbage posted about any of the three major brands deserves to go where garbage belongs. Factual information is always welcome.

Sorry to be sooo forceful on this but this is just another example of blatant misinformation & needs to be squashed heavily and quickly. !!!.

DSM
xPAP and Quattro std mask (plus a pad-a-cheek anti-leak strap)

csellebrecht
Posts: 46
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:44 pm

Re: s8 elite II Data question?

Post by csellebrecht » Sun May 24, 2009 1:53 am

I had to ask because it just doesnt make sense that it would only report data up to a presure of 9. I just was confused and wanted to clarify. I agree with dsm that the spreading of incorrect info needs to stop. I view this site as a great place to get information to help me better my therapy and improve my nightly sleeping.

Thanks so much dsm and billbolton for taking the time to respond!

User avatar
dsm
Posts: 6996
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:53 am
Location: Near the coast.

Re: s8 elite II Data question?

Post by dsm » Sun May 24, 2009 2:32 am

csellebrecht wrote:I had to ask because it just doesnt make sense that it would only report data up to a presure of 9. I just was confused and wanted to clarify. I agree with dsm that the spreading of incorrect info needs to stop. I view this site as a great place to get information to help me better my therapy and improve my nightly sleeping.

Thanks so much dsm and billbolton for taking the time to respond!
Am pleased you realize the significance of this information. It does happen here where misinformation gets through to newcomers - that leads to those of us who can see it need to act.

Thanks for your reply & good luck.

DSM
xPAP and Quattro std mask (plus a pad-a-cheek anti-leak strap)

User avatar
DoriC
Posts: 5214
Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:28 pm
Location: NJ

Re: s8 elite II Data question?

Post by DoriC » Sun May 24, 2009 12:43 pm

I'm not familiar with the Resmed so can you guys lead csellebrect to the answer to his/her question. It probably relates to that algorithim10 business that seems to confuse everyone. So many people love the Resmeds that I'm on the lookout for a good buy so hubby can experiment with it and see if he's missing anything.

_________________
Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: 14/8.4,PS=4, UMFF, 02@2L,
"Do or Do Not-There Is No Try"-"Yoda"
"We are what we repeatedly do,so excellence
is not an act but a habit"-"Aristotle"
DEAR HUBBY BEGAN CPAP 9/2/08

-SWS
Posts: 5301
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:06 pm

Re: s8 elite II Data question?

Post by -SWS » Sun May 24, 2009 1:09 pm

QUESTION:
csellebrecht wrote:I have read many posts about the Elite II only reporting AHI up to a presure of 9, can someone please shed some more light on this subject. Does this mean anything after a presure setting of 9 the data is unreliable?

Thanks

TWO GREAT ANSWERS IN MY OPINION:
billbolton wrote: I have no idea which posts you are referring to, so no I can't shed any light on why you have formed that point of view.

However, an S8 Elite II will reliably report AHI efficacy data at any titration pressure that it is capable of being set to (4cms H2O to 20cms H2O).

Cheers,

Bill
DoriC wrote:I'm not familiar with the Resmed so can you guys lead csellebrect to the answer to his/her question. It probably relates to that algorithim10 business that seems to confuse everyone. So many people love the Resmeds that I'm on the lookout for a good buy so hubby can experiment with it and see if he's missing anything.
Cellebrecht, I think Bill and DoriC came up with two excellent answers.

I looked high and low for any implied signs of 9 cm underhandedness. Quite frankly I couldn't find any behavior requiring zero-tolerance squash policies or group behavior-and-speech modification policies. Rather, I think a certain understandable kind of newcomer confusion that DoriC mentioned just may have been what compelled you to ask your perfectly legitimate question.

We will most definitely continue to have all kinds of detailed technical discussions on this message board. The message board needs to squarely serve all levels of experience, all cultures, and all points of view. That's quite a juggling feat in my opinion. Regardless, I would encourage each person to freely discuss whatever they think is appropriate, and in whatever manner of free speech they also think is appropriate---short of being guided by our official moderators, who have a wonderful disdain for restricting conversations. When newcomers come along and sincerely ask for clarification of confusing points, I personally happen to prefer the polite and educational manner that Bill Bolton just used to perfectly address that point of confusion.

Not only does that very kind manner efficiently address the point of confusion, but it also encourages newcomers to comfortably ask any and all questions. As one extremely diverse and international forum, one person's view of what needs to be conversationally squashed with dedicated vigilance, is bound to be another person's view of what simply needs to be kindly and politely clarified.

User avatar
DoriC
Posts: 5214
Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:28 pm
Location: NJ

Re: s8 elite II Data question?

Post by DoriC » Sun May 24, 2009 5:12 pm

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=36570&p=316992&hilit=A10#p316992

This thread may somewhat answer the question you're asking, and you can use the Search box to get lots of info, also Our Wisdom.

_________________
Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: 14/8.4,PS=4, UMFF, 02@2L,
"Do or Do Not-There Is No Try"-"Yoda"
"We are what we repeatedly do,so excellence
is not an act but a habit"-"Aristotle"
DEAR HUBBY BEGAN CPAP 9/2/08

-SWS
Posts: 5301
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:06 pm

Re: s8 elite II Data question?

Post by -SWS » Sun May 24, 2009 6:30 pm

That's a great thread cited by DoriC.

I will also add that discussions in threads like that deal with Resmed's A10 pressure-adjustment algorithm used in the AutoSet models. That, in turn, means none of those pressure-adjustment discussions apply to the Elite II, which is a fixed-pressure CPAP machine.

User avatar
DoriC
Posts: 5214
Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:28 pm
Location: NJ

Re: s8 elite II Data question?

Post by DoriC » Sun May 24, 2009 9:18 pm

Aha, so right you are,I told you I wasn't familiar with Resmeds, now all I've done is add to the confusion. But thanks for the pat on the back anyway. Dori

_________________
Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: 14/8.4,PS=4, UMFF, 02@2L,
"Do or Do Not-There Is No Try"-"Yoda"
"We are what we repeatedly do,so excellence
is not an act but a habit"-"Aristotle"
DEAR HUBBY BEGAN CPAP 9/2/08

-SWS
Posts: 5301
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:06 pm

Re: s8 elite II Data question?

Post by -SWS » Sun May 24, 2009 10:35 pm

No, I honestly think you added to the clarity nicely with that link, DoriC. That's probably the kind of thread Cellebrecht had in mind.