made-to-order masks

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Re: made-to-order masks

Post by whatrdreamsmadeof » Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:39 pm

This sounds wonderful, I've PMed you too!
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Re: made-to-order masks

Post by georgepds » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:14 am

rested gal wrote:Perhaps a "custom" mask made from a mold of one's face would work, but..... when a person turns to other sleep positions, or the head pillow is squashed, bunched up, etc. against the cheek, I'd think all bets are off as to whether a custom mask would work any better than the usual masks.
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OTOH, I find you can use the pillow to "distort" the mask so it does not leak.

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Re: made-to-order masks

Post by georgepds » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:18 am

BadBreath wrote:... sealed using a gasket around the stoma attached with a skin adhesive...
I just finished a book called Sleep by the head of the first sleep lab in Israel. He says the first masks he used from Australia used a skin adhesive ( the blower was a from a variable speed vacuum cleaner)

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Re: made-to-order masks

Post by BadBreath » Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:31 pm

I think gluing your mask to your face or nose would be a last resort, because the proper mask setup is easy to take on and off as needed and still maintains a seal. Of course to achieve that I have gone to an extreme custom solution.

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For glue I have tried spirit gum, which you use for attaching theater makeup pieces, but it was not strong enough. But if you're willing to try it, this new product might be the answer. Non-flammable and silicone, not latex. Odor-free and resistant to moisture.

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Just try to ignore the reference to male external cathers.

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Re: made-to-order masks

Post by plr66 » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:42 am

BadBreath wrote:For glue I have tried spirit gum, which you use for attaching theater makeup pieces, but it was not strong enough. But if you're willing to try it, this new product might be the answer. Non-flammable and silicone, not latex. Odor-free and resistant to moisture.

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Just try to ignore the reference to male external cathers.
I don't use a FF mask--just have one in case of having a bad cold---but I was intrigued by your suggestion of this skin adhesive for the mask leaks. Downside is that it says rubbing alcohol is needed to clean the non-skin surface, and if I remember right ( sometimes questionable.... ), silicone doesn't like alcohol. Is that true?
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Re: made-to-order masks

Post by BadBreath » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:23 am

plr66 wrote: I don't use a FF mask--just have one in case of having a bad cold---but I was intrigued by your suggestion of this skin adhesive for the mask leaks. Downside is that it says rubbing alcohol is needed to clean the non-skin surface, and if I remember right ( sometimes questionable.... ), silicone doesn't like alcohol. Is that true?
I agree it could be a concern and they caution you on that very topic. A greater concern might be that these products were not intended for use around the nose and mouth, so one should probably talk to the manufacturers medical support personnel before using.

My biggest question is the effectiveness, since the medical appliance it is designed to be used with is not under pressure or being pulled on at the hose.

BTW I think you could use glue on any mask style that involves a seal on the skin.