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Post by capt » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:10 pm

DSM, My primary mask before I started using the Activa was the Ultra Mirage. I agree with you that the Activa is very comfortable. When I first starting using it, it was very hard for me to get used to how loose to have the headgear straps. I just wish that it had the Ultra Mirage's exhaust system. I have got a new pillow and it has greatly reduced my problem with the exhaust noise.


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Post by snork1 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:11 pm

dsm wrote:
snork1 wrote:Definitely try RG's suggestion of the DIY tongue guide for stopping mouth leaks. I don't even use a chin strap anymore. Its definitely worth a couple of bucks for a couple of boilable shapeable mouthguards and a saturday of playing around with the concept.
As per usual RG (my angel) has the ideas. I plan to explore the use of these moulded teeth guards. Just hope we can get em locally.

Cheers

DSM
You can get the raw material for the DIY tongue guide at your local sports equipment store ("Big 5" is my source at about $3-$4 each).

To me, the tongue guide is the greatest break through in CPAP since the heated hose.

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Post by dsm » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:39 pm

snork1 wrote: You can get the raw material for the DIY tongue guide at your local sports equipment store ("Big 5" is my source at about $3-$4 each).

To me, the tongue guide is the greatest break through in CPAP since the heated hose.
I have a couple of bulk warehouse type sports places nearby. Will use my lunch break to try them for these guards.

May thanks for the valuable comments on this approach.

DSM

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Post by dsm » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:46 pm

Today I was able to purchase 2 'Shock Doctor' mouldable mouthguards.

These can be shaped after placing in boiling water.

Cheers

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Post by NeurosurgeryNP » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:18 pm

I started to tape when I first was on CPAP. I am using the Activa. I found out that the best way foe me to prevent mouth leaks was:
1: I use a tape called Hytape - it is a tape which is zinc oxide based and is gentle on the skin. Like DSM, I also had trouble getting it off - although this tape is gentler than any I have tried, it still can get stuck on the lips. I solved this problem by using 3" tape and using a 2" X 2" gauze folded in half to cover my lips before I taped (I am sure that u can use a paper towel or something else to do this - it was just convienent for me working in a hospital). If you go to Google and put in Hytape, it'll show you a place to but it online.
2: I used a chin strap in tandem with the tape for the first month or so.

Now, after 4 months of this, I am able to go with just the redmed sullivan chin strap with minimal mouth leaks.

Hope this helps. Jen

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Post by dsm » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:46 pm

NeurosurgeryNP wrote: 1: I use a tape called Hytape - it is a tape which is zinc oxide based and is gentle on the skin. Like DSM, I also had trouble getting it off - although this tape is gentler than any I have tried, it still can get stuck on the lips. I solved this problem by using 3" tape and using a 2" X 2" gauze folded in half to cover my lips before I taped (I am sure that u can use a paper towel or something else to do this - it was just convienent for me working in a hospital). If you go to Google and put in Hytape, it'll show you a place to but it online.

Hope this helps. Jen

Jen,

I will give that a go. I do like the Activa.

DSM

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Post by lynn » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:02 pm

----To Jen/NNP,

For mouth leaks, I use a 3M product called "Nexcare Gentle Paper
Tape for Sensitive Skin, Gentle Adhesive, Breathable." Is the one you use, Hytape, even easier on the skin? Since you are a nurse, figured you'd know the best choice! I do double up two strips of it on the back of my hand to make it wider and by doing so figure some of the adhesive gets left on my hand. Similar to when I'm masking a delicate, recently painted or varnished surface. I'll run the strip of masking tape over my jeans to remove some of the tack and then place the tape.

It's still not that easy to get off get the tape off my mouth by morning so always looking for something better! The piece of gauze is a great suggestion.

I wear a splint/nightguard for bruxism at night (created by my dentist several years ago). It doesn't seem to alleviate mouth leaks. Maybe I'll try the DIY method.

----To DSM,

I found that when congested I can breathe much easier with my Swift nasal pillow interface than with the Activa. I just prefer the Swift overall anyway

lynn


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Post by NeurosurgeryNP » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:55 pm

I found that the Hytape is best for me anyway. I have tried many tapes, but I guess I make lots of saliva, and anything with less adhesive than a strong tape, did not work for me - the saliva got into the seal and it opened up all of the way. The Hytape, although strong, is zinc oxide based, and I never experienced a rash because of it.

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Post by snork1 » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:56 pm

[quote="lynn"]----To Jen/NNP,
...
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I wear a splint/nightguard for bruxism at night (created by my dentist several years ago). It doesn't seem to alleviate mouth leaks. Maybe I'll try the DIY method.

----To DSM,

I found that when congested I can breathe much easier with my Swift nasal pillow interface than with the Activa. I just prefer the Swift overall anyway

lynn

Remember:
What you read above is only one data point based on one person's opinion.
I am not a doctor, nor do I even play one on TV.
Your mileage may vary.
Follow ANY advice or opinions at your own risk.
Not everything you read is true.

Janelle

Post by Janelle » Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:00 pm

I don't use any device except what God gave me....my tongue. Placing your tongue tip against either your lower or upper incisors effectively blocks your throat. My tongue is so used to being in this position, it even does it during the day.

On another note: Nasal congestion: use the nasal spray BEFORE going to bed and it will last all night long. Best are the steroidal sprays like Nasacort AQ which you get from the Dr. These actually last about 24 hours, too, and you'll find after several months of xPAP therapy and the humidifier you will seldom need them at all, except maybe for a cold.