What "Law" stops Respironics from talking to us?

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Post by ozij » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:09 am

As for this stupid business of "changing your prescription" - it really is absurd legalistic gobbledygook that should be challenged and changed.

If the software creates a "prescription" that shouldn't be tampered with, then obviously, nobody who is not a qualified physician should tamper with it, and the people who do create the prescription (in the machine) should sign it digitally to identify them as the person who created this Rx , and they should be personally liable for any mistakes they make.

As a matter of fact, anyone who has a "prescription" put into the machine by the DME or RT should have them sign a document where they expect full responsibility for "creating" that prescription in the machine and for any untoward results etc. And if, as we've recently read for more than one member, the machine was wrong or the so called Rx was wrong, or both were, well that's malpractice, isn't it?

Any lawyer memeber out there in the mood to create this document for us so we can try to use for haggling with DME in order to recieve the operator's manual?

If the DMEs, RTs maintain they are not creating an RX, just filling it, like a pharmacist, then here is what happens: When a doctor prescribes a course of antibiotics I am told to take it all, and at the times prescribed. The whole bunch of pills is given to me by the pharmacist, And I the patient am in control of how much I take. I do what the doctor orders - but no one forces me to take those pills, and no one says there's a law against my taking more or less than prescribed because I would be (gasp!) changing my prescription.

The same is true of the cm. prescription for cpap.

The prescription is written on paper and signed by the doctor. And no doctor will accept liability for the Rx put into the machine by an RT or DME.

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Post by billbolton » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:19 am

ozij wrote:The prescription is written on paper and signed by the doctor. And no doctor will accept liability for the Rx put into the machine by an RT or DME.
Are you sure of that?

It seems that there's a lot of "bush lawyer" advice being freely handed out on this topic.

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Post by ozij » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:27 am

billbolton wrote:
ozij wrote:The prescription is written on paper and signed by the doctor. And no doctor will accept liability for the Rx put into the machine by an RT or DME.
Are you sure of that?

It seems that there's a lot of "bush lawyer" advice being freely handed out on this topic.

Cheers,

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Post by Guest » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:37 am

dllfo... Have you contacted NJC with this specific question?

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Post by billbolton » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:04 am

ozij wrote:And no doctor will accept liability for the Rx put into the machine by an RT or DME.
ozij wrote:This was not advice, that is my analysis of the situation.
Then why did you make a definitive statement if it was just your opinion?


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Post by Guest » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:46 pm

yawn

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Post by dllfo » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:54 pm

Guest...WHICH question?
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Post by Goofproof » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:52 pm

He's yawning at all the questions, he needs a better DME. Jim

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Post by dllfo » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:24 pm

I was talking about the post before that one..........


"dllfo... Have you contacted NJC with this specific question?"

I have contacted the nurses at NJC, but not sure which question you are talking about. They asked that I keep a "log" of problems and bring it with me. If I
have a pressing problem, I can ask my local doctor. He is sharp, just works too many hours. I try not to bother any of them unless it appears serious.
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Post by dllfo » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:11 pm

Anyone know what the black "ball" thing is for? It is next to this topic in the index.
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Post by rested gal » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:36 pm

dllfo wrote:Anyone know what the black "ball" thing is for? It is next to this topic in the index.
Down at the bottom of the index page is a legend of the symbols. The black ball (like a bomb) is for "popular" topics...based on having generated a lot of replies, I think.
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Post by dllfo » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:39 pm

RG...bless you. I looked at the top of the page, trying to find a link to where the icons were explained.

As I have said many times (with 4 daughters).."If God had intended for men to take responsibility for anything, He wouldn't have put women in our lives."

Or...as our favorite waitress used to say..."How are ya today"?? I would tell her
"According to the wife, slightly better than nothing..." (That is the G rated answer)

(My wife just read this, so I can post it

Thanks again....Dave
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Post by oceanpearl » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:02 pm

Slinky wrote:It seems to be a d*mn conspiracy on the part of the medical profession. Keep the patient in the dark ages so they don't recognize when we don't know what we're doing! Gads, I get so darned tired of that attitude!!!
Dark ages?? When I was a young man a doctor wouldn't think of telling you what your blood pressure or temperature was. We have come a long way baby!!
I just want to go back to sleep!

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Post by Guest » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:49 pm

dllfo wrote:Guest...WHICH question?
RE: your machine.

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Post by dllfo » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:52 pm

Sure they did...I had a flight physical every year. But they didn't check pulse
ox. I have copies of most of those physicals.
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