Where is the AirSense 12?

Ok then I’ll stop talking. It seems like all people do around here is mention the negative .

First time poster here, but 20 year user. If you go back and read old threads comparing the S9 with the Airsense 10 people suggested getting the 9 if you could because the 10 seemed to be a cheapened versions of the 9. Now, most people give the nod to the 10 over the 11 because the 11 seems to be a cheapened versions of the 10. Having used a 9 and 10 I would give the nod to the 9. The water chamber is easier to fill and clean, and the humidifier detaches from the machine making it’s foot print smaller.I like my 9 so much I put a new blower motor in it and still use it from time to time.

Will I get a 12 when it comes out? Maybe, but I certainly won’t be the first in line to get one Form VS function. The function of the last 3 generations is essentially the same. As far as form goes for me at least I prefer the older models.

I have to disagree on that statement about one being a cheapened version of another. Cpaps in general are pretty expensive and it’s pretty much the same with all newer technology. I never had to buy one myself as my Medicare/medicade covers all of my medical needs.

Okay if the AirSense 11 is not an improvement than show me the proof. In my first few nights with my new machine I haven’t noticed anything worth complaining about. I kinda like the fact that it’s touch screen and i actually like the smaller water chamber and the changes to the hose.

tlohse wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 21, 2026 6:24 pm

Okay if the AirSense 11 is not an improvement than show me the proof. In my first few nights with my new machine I haven’t noticed anything worth complaining about. I kinda like the fact that it’s touch screen and i actually like the smaller water chamber and the changes to the hose.

Air 11 issues:

• Motor is smaller than the 10, given they both will have similar work, the likely outcome is earlier failure.
• Doesn't have a 90 degree elbow, the hose coming out the back gives less practical usable length
• Hose connection does not have a swivel connector, this results in less practical usable length
• Unreliable SD Card seating, this results in lost detail data
• Hose connection point failure point where pressure causes excessive leak, demonstrated and documented by CPAP Reviews video
• Noisier, (Air 11 - 27 decibels, Air 10 - 26.6 decibels)
• (practical) Smaller capacity humidifier, supported by numerous forum topics of Air 11 running out of water
• Flatter humidifier tank, resulting in even less capacity and more water spillage
• Cheaper/thinner humidifier tank, resulting in earlier failure and leaks
• Supply chain problems, resulting in less availability of supplies (this one has been mostly resolved)
• Proprietary power connector, resulting in less options for 3rd party power supplies, DC-DC converters and obsolete battery back ups
• Can't change time, susceptible to clock drift
• Changing time-zone will erase all data
• More expensive
• ClimateLine fault, resulting in connection failures, resolvable by (multiple) restarts and/or reconnecting ClimateLine

There are more, but too picayune to list, ie non-replaceable modem.

Don't interpret the above to suggest the Air 11 is not a good machine, it's a great machine (2nd best). But suggesting the Air 11 is a clear improvement over the Air 10, is just not true. Especially when your opininon is supported by the Air 11 is newer technology therefore it must be better.

The Air 11, does not [yet] have the same reputation for problem free years. It is just entering it's fifth year, the Air 10 is entering it's 12th year and still has a solid reputation
The forums are filled with experienced, knowledgeable users who have gone to the 11 and went back to the 10.

Mark435 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 19, 2026 2:42 pm

If you go back and read old threads comparing the S9 with the Air 10, people suggested getting the 9 if you could because the 10 seemed to be a cheapened versions of the 9. Now, most people give the nod to the 10 over the 11 because the 11 seems to be a cheapened versions of the 10.

I don't know what forums you're reading, but I can't find any posts suggesting the Air 10 was nothing more than a cheapened 9. Now, I'm not doubting that there might have been an occasional post, during the early 10 release. But the Air 10 became the hands down favorite very shortly after release. After nearly 5 years, this still hasn't happened with the Air 11.

I've got 30+ years of backup AirCurve 10s

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 22, 2026 12:00 pm

I've got 30+ years of backup AirCurve 10s

No Air 11s.jpg

day-um! planning on living forever?

Well I must be lucky or have really good product because I’ve been a cpap person since June 2013 and have yet to have a machine or anything fail to work for me.

tlohse wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 22, 2026 2:17 pm

Well I must be lucky or have really good product because I’ve been a cpap person since June 2013 and have yet to have a machine or anything fail to work for me.

Huh?

There is nothing in my post that suggests that one must be lucky to be a longtime user without a failure. You're asking about Air 11s. What is the relevance of not having a failure for approximately 13 years, when you've only had your Air 11 for a few days?

Why do ask for proof, and then when provided proof, respond with nonsense?

Consider having your mask venting checked. Confusion and disorientation are symptoms of hypoxia. Maybe you have had some equipment failure.

Well would Resmed even have made the 11 if it didn’t improve something? Isn’t that usually what companies do try to improve there products?

tlohse wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 22, 2026 4:05 pm

Well would Resmed even have made the 11 if it didn’t improve something? Isn’t that usually what companies do try to improve there products?

Moving the goal posts again? And no, I didn't say, "they didn't improve something".

You asked for proof, I gave you a significant evidence.

Address that or STFU.

viewtopic/t102302/Resmed-S9-vs-Airsense-10.html

This is the thread a was reading when I saw the comparison. I think it is a case of an occasional comment comparing the two models. I personally bought a 10 autoset out of pocket last year and am using that machine now. I’m totally satisfied with its performance. With that in mind for myself I see no reason to “upgrade” again.

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 22, 2026 4:24 pm

tlohse wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 22, 2026 4:05 pm

Well would Resmed even have made the 11 if it didn’t improve something? Isn’t that usually what companies do try to improve there products?

Moving the goal posts again? And no, I didn't say, "they didn't improve something".

You asked for proof, I gave you a significant evidence.

Address that or STFU.

Ok Dogslobber whatever you say. It still doesn’t change my opinion. Anyhow I think you’re just a big bully who likes to ridicule anything I say. All AirSense 11 can’t be bad otherwise it would have ended by now.

This is what I said:

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 22, 2026 12:00 pm

Don't interpret the above to suggest the Air 11 is not a good machine, it's a great machine (2nd best).

An what do you do, interpret what I said to mean the Air 11 is bad:

tlohse wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 22, 2026 8:59 pm

All AirSense 11 can’t be bad otherwise it would have ended by now.

Well think about it. Other than being second best and all the negative brought out on it nobody has ever said anything positive about it.

Moved response over to this topic, so I wouldn't derail the original topic.

Sleepzilla wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2026 9:14 am

tlohse wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 01, 2026 10:45 pm

You could make the jump to 11 like I did but a lot of people seem to diss it around here,

That's because the difference between 10 and 11 series machines isn't a jump at all. It's more like a step sideways in that both machine's features and settings are identical.

And it's a stumbling step backwards when you compare the 11's cost-cutting shift to a smaller nosier blower motor, a smaller humidifier water tub, and lack of rotating 90 degree hose connection.

Just because you have one doesn't mean it's a superior machine, or that it's helpful to recommend it to others.

Sleepzilla, it's a waste of time responding to tlohse. He's dishonest and doesn't have the capacity to engage in rational discussion. This topic demonstrates that.