How can CPAP improve sleep quality?

Reposting here contributive comments that were made in another post,

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:56 am

... Increase in restful sleep is the most rewarding benefit of CPAP therapy.
People can feel like dogshit because their sleep is interrupted constantly all night, and yet they may not have any significant oxygen desaturation.

I kind of know the CPAP treatment options on the machine as mostly varying IPAP, EPAP, ramp, and backup rate possibly? and there are other settings too of course? Can you respond as to how CPAP can bring forth more restful sleep, besides just increasing the total of airflow?

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:01 pm

My initial sleep study showed NO oxygen drops, but for years, I had suffered
from multiple sleep interruptions every night, and the resulting health consequences.

Sorry to hear about your past sleep quality problems, I have them too and would be so glad if I could get them corrected with CPAP, which seems has happily happened for you? Many posts on the forum focus on lowering the AHI. So if the therapy's goal is to lower the AHI, and my AHI went from 20 before therapy, to 3 or below now, how come that therapeutic effect didn't help with my sleep quality? Is there something CPAP therapy can still do to help? Actually, instead my sleep got more broken up after starting the therapy...

In what ways can CPAP therapy help with sleep quality, (aside from increasing oxygen level in some people)?

4betterO2 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:23 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:56 am

... Increase in restful sleep is the most rewarding benefit of CPAP therapy.
People can feel like dogshit because their sleep is interrupted constantly all night, and yet they may not have any significant oxygen desaturation.

I know the CPAP treatment options on the machine as mostly varying IPAP, EPAP, ramp, and backup rate possibly, there are other settings too of course. Can you respond as to how CPAP can bring forth more restful sleep?

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:01 pm

My initial sleep study showed NO oxygen drops, but for years, I had suffered
from multiple sleep interruptions every night, and the resulting health consequences.

Sorry to hear about your past sleep quality problems, I have them too and would be so glad if I could get them corrected with CPAP, which seems has happily happened for you? Many posts on the forum focus on lowering the AHI. So if the therapy's goal is to lower the AHI, and my AHI went from 20 before therapy, to 3 or below now, how come that therapeutic effect didn't help with my sleep quality? Is there something CPAP therapy can still do to help? Actually, instead my sleep got more broken up after starting the therapy...

In what ways can CPAP therapy help with sleep quality, (aside from increasing oxygen level in some people)?

You don't have your profile filled in nor do we know what settings you're using.
Are you using a CPAP or and APAP? What settings? Do you monitor your therapy with software? Is your machine data-capable?

We can't suggest possibilities unless we know a little about your present therapy.

The answer to your question........probably YES!


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Wulfman... wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:08 pm

We can't suggest possibilities unless we know a little about your present therapy.
The answer to your question........probably YES!

(my original post editing came at the same time as your reply, first time I've seen this)
Thanks for your reply
The general question is, how can machine settings influence anything else than increasing airflow? And how does the AHI relate, not with the oxygen level in the blood, but with the quality of sleep that Palerider was talking about? I was just wondering this as a "Therapy Theory" question, which I hoped a RT might answer as such, like, in a RT textbook...
I appreciate your willingness to help and the hopefulness of your post; I'm using a PR Bipap ASV machine; however, although I did mention some of my stats, I'm right now, not asking for a personal therapeutic solution as I do not have much time, to get to install and use Oscar etc., and I also think there are other factors involved in sleep quality, and need to learn other aspects of sleep therapy outside of and in addition to CPAP, ...all of this taking a lot of time...

by the way, does Oscar let you know when and how long you have been in deep sleep? The deep sleep question is even more important to me, than how long my (broken) sleep sessions are: I feel I need to find answers about it, here or elsewhere, before tackling other sleep issues...

4betterO2 has been a forum member for
SEVEN YEARS
?????
" . . . does Oscar let you know when and how long you have been in deep sleep?"
--How could it do that?
Where are the sensors for the EEG????
Were they not in the box with your cpap?

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:12 am

4betterO2 has been a forum member for
SEVEN YEARS
?????
" . . . does Oscar let you know when and how long you have been in deep sleep?"
--How could it do that?
Where are the sensors for the EEG????
Were they not in the box with your cpap?

I've forgotten a lot during an interval of years when I wasn't active on the forum
Just wondering if some other manifestation of deep sleep has been discovered besides the brain waves, and was noticeable on the data Oscar reads.
Obviously not, or not yet. Thanks for the headsup

OSCAR software only reports whatever data the machine gathers. If the machine doesn't gather it then it can't be reported.
There are no cpap/apap whatever pap machines that measure sleep at all much less sleep stages.
Heck they can't even tell if we are asleep or not.

If I came over to your house and sat by your bed and poked you with a stick hard enough to wake you up every 5 minutes all night long you probably wouldn't sleep so great or feel so great would you?...every 5 minutes equals an AHI of 12.
Using cpap/apap/bilevel optimally prevents those apneas from "poking" you so you sleep more soundly.

Frequent wake ups for any reason will trash sleep quality and keep us from getting the normal amount of sleep in each sleep stage and cycle for the restorative powers of sleep to work their magic. And we will feel like crap because we slept like crap.

Using cpap helps prevent frequent wake ups from apnea events that in turn mess with sleep architecture..

4betterO2 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:23 pm

Reposting here contributive comments that were made in another post,

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:56 am

... Increase in restful sleep is the most rewarding benefit of CPAP therapy.
People can feel like dogshit because their sleep is interrupted constantly all night, and yet they may not have any significant oxygen desaturation.

I kind of know the CPAP treatment options on the machine as mostly varying IPAP, EPAP, ramp, and backup rate possibly? and there are other settings too of course? Can you respond as to how CPAP can bring forth more restful sleep, besides just increasing the total of airflow?

By preventing your choking in your sleep, don't be daft.

palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:31 am

By preventing your choking in your sleep, don't be daft.

when does this person get a mention in your sig?

cuz he certainly deserves to be on everyone's list.

zonker wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:41 am

palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:31 am

By preventing your choking in your sleep, don't be daft.

when does this person get a mention in your sig?

cuz he certainly deserves to be on everyone's list.

Character limit--or limitations of character . . .