UPDATE - BIPAP vs. ASV

aussiepanda · Post by **aussiepanda** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:40 pm

Hi, I am from Sydney, Australia.

I have sen a few old posts on BIPAP vs. ASV

However, i'd like some updated information or input as to what the difference is between these 2 machines and also, if money is NOT an issues, should i opt for ONE machine over the other automtically?

I have central sleep apnia and also standard obstrustive sleep apnia.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:44 pm

aussiepanda wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:40 pm
Hi, I am from Sydney, Australia.

I have sen a few old posts on BIPAP vs. ASV

However, i'd like some updated information or input as to what the difference is between these 2 machines and also, if money is NOT an issues, should i opt for ONE machine over the other automtically?

I have central sleep apnia and also standard obstrustive sleep apnia.

That's like asking "what's the difference in a pickup truck and a ford f150

"bipap" is the marketing name for respironics brand bilevel machines.

"bilevel" is the description of a class of machines that allow specifically for differing pressures on inhale and exhale. (some cpaps allow limted bilevel behavior, but true bilevels offer much more flexibility.

An ASV is a type of bilevel machine, so you see the nonsense of the question.

If you have more than mild central apnea, you need an ASV, because while a standard bilevel just switches pressure when you inhale and exhale, an ASV monitors the volume of every single breath and increases or decreases the pressure support (amount pressure increases when you inhale) considerably in order to force more air into you when your breathing effort diminishes due to the central apnea.

aussiepanda · Post by **aussiepanda** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:45 am

to be honest,

most questions people put on forums are not going to make full proper sense, that is why we reach out and seek clarity or at the least input.

so, cutting me down telling me its a nonsense question or highlighting your perspective of how confusing my questions are... just encourages people to not bother going into forums in the first place.

your input at the end was good,

'An ASV is a type of bilevel machine......
If you have more than mild central apnea, you need an ASV, because while a standard bilevel just switches pressure when you inhale and exhale, an ASV monitors the volume of every single breath and increases or decreases the pressure support (amount pressure increases when you inhale) considerably in order to force more air into you when your breathing effort diminishes due to the central apnea."

the rest of the remarks are just unwarranted. or more of a put down actually.

thanks for sharing though.

now you have made better sense of my nonsense start up conversation topic.

aussiepanda · Post by **aussiepanda** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:47 am

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:24 am

You will stand a better chance of success with ASV bilevel than you will with the ST or ST-A bilevel.
ASV does a better job of dealing with both obstructive and central apnea than the ST or ST-A.
ASV will be more comfortable overall as well.

Cruiser1234 · Post by **Cruiser1234** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:46 am

Agreed - go with the ASV for anything more than mild centrals. If you can, try and get the Resmed Aircurve 10 ASV as I have heard many more positive comments about it vs the Dreamstation ASV.

Also, if you down under...it may be cheaper to source from the US if you are without insurance. Specifically, Secondwindcpap is a great place as they have low hour and 0 hour machines.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:01 am

aussiepanda wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:45 am
to be honest,

most questions people put on forums are not going to make full proper sense, that is why we reach out and seek clarity or at the least input.

so, cutting me down telling me its a nonsense question or highlighting your perspective of how confusing my questions are... just encourages people to not bother going into forums in the first place.

I'd rather spend my time helping people who aren't looking for excuses to get their little feelers hurt by someone correcting them... Don't worry, I won't answer any more questions you ask.

Perhaps you'd feel safer over on apneaboard.com, it's a safe place.

Dog Slobber · Post by **Dog Slobber** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:40 am

I don't understand why explaining that a question doesn't make sense is considered a personal attack. It's not.

Your question didn't make sense, you were't "cut up" for asking it. You were told it didn't make sense, it was explained why it didn't make sense, an analogy was even provided.

Part of the learning process, is to get people to the stage where they can better communicate what they want to find out. This reduces confusion when asking questions and allows people to more effectively use search engines.

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