Seeking recommendations for a new AutoCPAP machine

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Re: Seeking recommendations for a new AutoCPAP machine

Post by jpek » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:42 am

ragtopcircus wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:12 am
Running the humidifier takes a lot of power. To make the battery last longer, I use an inline Heat Moisture Exchanger. It has to be as close as possible to to your mouth and nose so it can capture moisture from your breath. An HME does not work as well as a regular humidifier, but it is better than nothing.

The Resmed DC-DC converter is what’s called a buck-boost converter. It transforms the voltage in (12 to 24) to a steady 24V (plus a lower level that Resmed also needs).

If we ignore efficiency for simplicity, Watts in = Watts out. Voltage x Current = Watts. That means that the DC-DC will only draw half as much current from a 24V battery (or two 12V batteries wired in series, or four 6V batteries wired in series.

I keep a supply of 6V lantern batteries for power outages because they last a long time on the shelf without needing to be kept on a charger.

Most batteries are more efficient when discharged slowly. You may be able to walk all day (even if your feet get sore), but most people tire quickly running up hill. Batteries work like that too. If you double the load current, you don’t just cut the usable time in half. You lose more than that, because the battery is less efficient at high current.

That means cutting the load current in half will usually increase the usable time by more than double.
Thank you for the explanation. That makes more sense to me now. So, can I use any Resmed machine? It doesn't have to be one that's advertised as working off grid?

I will need to go to all these posts and figure out what exactly I need to buy and then how to string it together. No doubt I'll have more questions then. But I wish there was more guidance for those of us who need the humidifier. I don't think the HME will work with either of my masks. The Dreamwear has a hose that comes out of the mask on top of the head and the Wisp has a pretty long mini-hose before it attaches to the main hose. So, I don't think either of those would qualify as being close to the mouth.

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Re: Seeking recommendations for a new AutoCPAP machine

Post by Pugsy » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:06 am

I don't think you would like the HME thing even if you could use it right near the mouth ....and you are correct those masks with longer hoses or that have attachment at the top of the head...won't work so great with the HME.
Even if you changed masks and could maybe use the HME...I am not so sure that your nose would be happy with the amount of moisture you get from it. Something you could maybe experiment down the road with if you ever change to a mask where the HME could be close to your mask.

I need a lot of moisture added and if I don't get it then my nose reacts in such a way that I am miserable (think really bad allergy attack or sinus symptoms). I won't even go down that road myself. I tried a setting of just 2 on my humidifier some time back and my nose got really mad at me for that.

You can use the humidifier with a battery....just needs to be a big enough battery to handle the work load.
And you would either need a way to recharge the battery or multiple bigger batteries if you want multiple nights between recharges.
So it can be done with the ResMed...just will take more money because more or bigger batteries equals more money to get them.
Not super easy and certainly not cheap but it can be done.

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Re: Seeking recommendations for a new AutoCPAP machine

Post by Dog Slobber » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:10 am

Here's a YouTube video that does a pretty good job of showing how to make and wire a battery box suitable for providing 12V power via a lighter adapter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... Tf3fngKA-c

I wouldn't recommend the old car battery used in the video, instead use a new, reliable AGM battery described in CapnLoki's parts list post.

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