Is sleeping through the night a possibility or a reality?

SelfSeeker · Post by **SelfSeeker** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:58 am

Is sleeping through the night a possibility/reality with xPAP?

After starting on the APAP, I noticed that my constant waking up and staying awake, was subsiding, or at least I was falling back asleep quicker and not fully waking up as in the past. Now I am back to the alert wake ups many times a night. The only difference is the change of interface

Would changing interfaces effect the way/amount of sleep?

Do people who always woke up, fully alert over and over during the night ever get to sleep through the night once on xPAP?

Has your sleep improved or gotten worse?

krousseau · Post by **krousseau** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:07 am

Sleep quality and quantity have improved greatly-and yes I often sleep through the night.

Bones · Post by **Bones** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:07 am

I seem to go in cycles on that . I'll have several nights when I sleep pretty much straight through with maybe one bathroom trip. Then I'll have a couple or three nights running when I seem to be awake every hour. I have been on cpap for 10 months now and it seems that the "good" nights are becoming more frequent. I changed masks 2 1/2 weeks ago and I have only had a couple of "bad" nights since. I know that a lot of my previous wake ups were due to mask leaks and general discomfort and having an interface that is comfortable and doesn't leak is a real blessing in that regard.

I'm hoping that as you settle in and get used to this whole deal that you will start to have a lot of good nights too.

Brian

GoofyUT · Post by **GoofyUT** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:15 am

I consistently sleep throught he night, every night and get around 8 hours of good sleep, to boot. GONE are the nights that I had for YEARS when my eyes would pop open at 2-2:30AM and again 3:30-4:00AM, and there I'd be, fully alert, watching reruns of "COPS", feeling absolutely MISERABLE.

Now don't get me wrong: It was a long and tough road to get where I am now. My first four months of xPAP were MISERABLE! But, it finally all came togetehr and now I sleep CONSISTENTLY THROUGH THE NIGHT every night, and I feel like a kid again!

So don't fret! It can and WILL happen for you, when you get all the pieces to finally fit.

Good luck!

Chuck

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:26 am

I usually wake up (that I'm aware of) at least a couple of times during the night, every night. I have no problem just turning over and going back to sleep. The brief wakeups don't seem to bother me. Been using cpap four years. Every morning I get up feeling fully refreshed. Very different from how I used to feel in the mornings before cpap.

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:14 am

SelfSeeker wrote: After starting on the APAP, I noticed that my constant waking up and staying awake, was subsiding, or at least I was falling back asleep quicker and not fully waking up as in the past. Now I am back to the alert wake ups many times a night. The only difference is the change of interface

Would changing interfaces effect the way/amount of sleep?

It worked like that for me - different interface=more restless sleep till I get used to it.

Has your sleep improved or gotten worse?

Improved, though more like Rested Gal than like Chuck.

Rested Gal wrote:I usually wake up (that I'm aware of) at least a couple of times during the night, every night. I have no problem just turning over and going back to sleep. The brief wakeups don't seem to bother me.<snip>. Very different from how I used to feel in the mornings before cpap.

I've been using APAP for 20 months, and some mornings are not as good as others, but all are better than it used to be. So are the days.

O.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:27 am

I sleep through the night every night 7 to 8 hours. You have to do things right though, if you sleep too much in the day it hurts your sleep at night.

I got to sleeping with the T.V. on, that's bad, I would want to see a show, and fall asleep, then when the credits rolled by, I would wake. Not good sleep.

Now I have the solution running, 10 hours of Nature sounds, they calm me, drown out my mask breathing sounds, and give me a nice place to park my mind for the night. Jim

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:35 am

1. need more info on your pressure range/settings, your original titration pressure etc., to make sure your machine is set up correctly.

2. you are making your life much more miserable using that swift, it is cold, it is noisy and nearly everyone complains of poorer sleep with it.

3. You need a quieter mask one that diffuses the incoming air much better or has more dead space. Consider the Somnotech, it is shown to be one of the quietest interfaces around (even quieter than UMFF according to one website noise comparison test).

Get your machine set up so it delivers the least amount of pressure needed to do the job, use the available features like autoramp , don't use too high a clfex setting, use a quieter mask. Consider Melatonin, it promotes deeper sleep.

SelfSeeker · Post by **SelfSeeker** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:14 pm

I guess I was caught in a moment of weakness/fatigue.

Chuck, I keep the tv off, from experience. LOL, I have learned to relax and wait for sleep without working myself up. But Of course, I am tired in the morning.

Rested Gal and krousseau, Glad you are doing good and have improved.

Bones and ozij, I am glad you are doing better.

Snoredog, I tried melatonin, pre CPAP, of course it did not work. Well I took one tonight. I will see how it goes.

For interfaces I need something off my face because of clastrophobic issues. Tried the CC, swift was my second try, I will keep tring interfaces to find one that helps me with my treatment.

Pressure min is 14, upto 19. Titrated at 12 or 14, can't remember. Events happen upto 18. Starting pressure was 10, I kept increasing the pressue to reduce the events that were happening at the pressures of 10 to 13.

I do not use ramp when starting at 14. It does not bother me.

I use the CFex at 3, if not I have problems exhaling especially at the higher presures.

What is the Somnotech?

CollegeGirl · Post by **CollegeGirl** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:20 pm

SS,
After getting the right combination of mask and pressures, I finally sleep like a baby. I may wake up, barely, once or twice to adjust the nasal pillows a bit - but that's it, and I go back to sleep immediately. Otherwise, I'm out cold. I take no sleep meds, natural or Rx. Since my CPAP has finally started making a difference in how I feel, the nightly bathroom trip is gone as well. Yay!

Sounds like maybe you haven't found the right combination yet - keep trying!

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:38 pm

SelfSeeker wrote:

After starting on the APAP, I noticed that my constant waking up and staying awake, was subsiding, or at least I was falling back asleep quicker and not fully waking up as in the past. Now I am back to the alert wake ups many times a night. The only difference is the change of interface

You need to isolate and list out all your problems with sleep, then address them one by one.

Start with falling asleep (and/or staying awake): What keeps you awake, is it the mask comfort? noise? or was it the event that woke you up?

Same for constant waking: Is it the pressure that wakes you or is it that the pressure may not be fully addressing your SDB? Or is it that you don't sleep very deep (light sleeper) and any little thing can wake you?

Melatonin: has been shown over and over since the 1950's to promote deeper sleep, but you need to take it 30 minutes before bed and take it every night for it to work. It's not one of those I'll just take it tonight, because you probably won't notice it working. But if you took it for a week at the right dose after about 45 minutes you'll be fighting to keep your eyes open. I've taken it for 15 yrs or so anywhere from 1.5mg to 6mg /night. I currently use the 3mg tabs from Costco, some nights if I'm wound up I'll take to tabs or 6mg. I sleep all the way through until 5:30AM which for me is good. That is as long as I don't develop a large leak and trip the machine's alarm.

Jere · Post by **Jere** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:51 pm

After the initial adjustment period, I regularly sleep 8 hours (or more) straight. I don't want to jinx this, as it has been many years since I was able to sleep like this. Most of my life I ALWAYS got up at least once and sometimes several times.

xpap is part of this; I am getting deeper sleep than before. However, at just about the same time I started on xpap, I switched depression and anxiety medication to one that actually works for me.

I attribute my sleep success to a combination of xpap and better medication.

Life can indeed get better (with a little patience).

Moogy · Post by **Moogy** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:58 pm

I find the Swift very irritating at high pressures (but great at low pressures).

I also have claustophobia, but I was able to adjust to using the Activa, which works well at high pressures for me.

Many nights I sleep through now, but not always. The last week I have had more insomnia, but I am pretty sure that is due to weaning off of some medication (Lexapro).

Good luck,
Moogy

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