Back Again and no more fooling around

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
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lliann
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Re: Back Again and no more fooling around

Post by lliann » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:26 pm

StuUnderPressure wrote:
LSAT wrote:
I'm not doubting you, but, I was always told that if you were on Medicare, it was always primary and any other insurance was secondary. When I left my job years ago, I questioned it and that is what I was told. About 2 years ago a friend was in the same situation and was told the same thing.
The Employer is the one that decides if you must go on Medicare when you retire & to make Medicare your primary insurer.

Of course, it is to the benefit of the employer to get someone older off of their group insurance & let someone else pay the "usually" higher health costs of that retired employee.

The advantage of having Medicare "my" primary insurer is that Medicare pays 80% & my Secondary (BC/BS) pays the remaining 20%.
I never have any copays, deductibles, or any other out-of-pocket costs.
"My" Secondary even pays the Medicare deductible in full.

The big disadvantage to having Medicare your primary is whether the current Doctors, etc. you use will accept Medicare.
If they do not, you may have to switch Doctors, etc.


All but 1 of mine were not accepting any new Medicare patients - but they were keeping their current patients who merely switched from a private insurer to Medicare.

Correct. If the employer decides to use HSA, they can insist you choose Mdc as your primary.(just as you say because the underwriting for older participants don't help the premiums.) . Actually I have not paid anything after my Mdc deductible was paid(as you said) so I have to undo my own words. However, I keep thinking there is some different thing. Besides drs cringing when they see MDC (altho multi insurances they love) but I believe Medicare has their allowable amounts and if its left over from a primary, the balance is not billable to the pt. Not sure the reverse is true. I know when I did billing, there ere carry over balance even when a person has 2 insurance including mdc.

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Re: Back Again and no more fooling around

Post by lliann » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:28 pm

Goofproof wrote:
Pugsy wrote:Check with Cigna directly....never, never, ever take a DMEs word as the gospel on anything.
They have been know to tell blatant lies about compliance to put the fear of God in people.
Medicare doesn't do the 90 day thing...it's 30 days within a 90 day period from getting the machine but the 30 days have to be consecutive.
I am betting that Cigna's is the same.

In other words...you have 90 days to meet the 30 day thing.
Has to be consecutive though...can't be spread out over 90 days...bummer.

If it were me...I would just keep using the S9. There's no urgent need for a new machine and if you were non compliant very much (and it sounds like your were) then it won't have all that many hours on it anyway. There's really nothing to be gained with a newer model that is of that much of a critical need or likely to make that much of a difference in your compliance.
Sounds like you need to have a little talking to that little devil on your shoulder telling you it's okay to take the mask off and sleep without it...or "for tonight ditch the mask"...

Now if you are having some comfort issues giving you and excuse for the little devil to speak up...we can maybe help with those.
But if it is just that you simply weren't committed and found any excuse to ditch the machine a good one...talk to that little devil on your shoulder.
Maybe find a fireproof 2 by 4, give that devil a attitude adjustment. Jim

Now now, no hitting my alter ego with a 2 by 4.<g> I think the threat of cardiac damage has pretty much done the trick. I have officially found the Cpap Way.<g>

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Mask: AirFit™ N20 Nasal CPAP Mask with Headgear
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Sleepyhead for Mac s9 auto settings 11-16