OT: Scalia and sleep apnea

A great thing I get from this thread is that one can continue to maintain his or her public work with a use a CPAP. The proof is Justice Scalia.

DeeCPAP wrote:

klv329 wrote:I wonder if the medical examiner reviewed the past data from the machine, if it was data capable at all.

Brilliant idea! I hope they saved the machine.

I hope so too, We The People, we're probably billed $50,000 for it, it still probably was a "Brick", with a nasal mask! THE Good Thing, the bill was probably just added to the National Debt, we won't have to pay for it our Grandkids will making Nike Shoes for the Chinese for 14 cents a pair and a bowl of rice every other day. Jim

Goofproof wrote:

DeeCPAP wrote:

klv329 wrote:I wonder if the medical examiner reviewed the past data from the machine, if it was data capable at all.

Brilliant idea! I hope they saved the machine.

I hope so too, We The People, we're probably billed $50,000 for it, it still probably was a "Brick", with a nasal mask! THE Good Thing, the bill was probably just added to the National Debt, we won't have to pay for it our Grandkids will making Nike Shoes for the Chinese for 14 cents a pair and a bowl of rice every other day. Jim

What a horrible scenario you depict, which unfortunately is quite conceivable.

As for Scalia, he smoked, had COPD, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc., so the CPAP apnea was only one of many things he needed to protect himself from the ravages of his illnesses at his age.

But, given his sense of humor, he probably enjoyed every bit of his life, his work and his demons, too!

DeeCPAP wrote:

klv329 wrote:I wonder if the medical examiner reviewed the past data from the machine, if it was data capable at all.

Brilliant idea! I hope they saved the machine.

I don't think there has been any involvement by a medical examiner. If I recall the news stories, a judge many miles away discussed the facts by telephone with Justice Scalia's hosts and pronounced his death to be from natural causes. I have no doubt the judge was correct, but we will never know for sure if being unmasked played a part.

When I was first diagnosed with sleep apnea, I assumed that missing an odd night of therapy once in a while wouldn't hurt me, that it was the long-term effects of sleep interruption I had to worry about. My doctor, who's a good guy and a better explainer than most, said there was one big exception. He said that someone who already had heart disease could be pushed over the edge to fatal arrhythmia by an apnea-related episode of low oxygen saturation.

I was lost with "HRT".

Hormone replacement therapy?

PST wrote:

DeeCPAP wrote:

klv329 wrote:I wonder if the medical examiner reviewed the past data from the machine, if it was data capable at all.

Brilliant idea! I hope they saved the machine.

I don't think there has been any involvement by a medical examiner. If I recall the news stories, a judge many miles away discussed the facts by telephone with Justice Scalia's hosts and pronounced his death to be from natural causes. I have no doubt the judge was correct, but we will never know for sure if being unmasked played a part.

When I was first diagnosed with sleep apnea, I assumed that missing an odd night of therapy once in a while wouldn't hurt me, that it was the long-term effects of sleep interruption I had to worry about. My doctor, who's a good guy and a better explainer than most, said there was one big exception. He said that someone who already had heart disease could be pushed over the edge to fatal arrhythmia by an apnea-related episode of low oxygen saturation.

Your comment makes a lot of sense. Thing is, with Scalia, it wasn't a bad way to go. No long dragged out ordeal with growing health problems, hospitalizations and debilitation. In a sense, a lucky guy!

CowFish wrote:I was lost with "HRT".

Hormone replacement therapy?

I read it as Hillary Rodham Trump, because the post was made later in the evening and perhaps someone had a couple.

Now hear this... and please don't jump all over the messenger: I had dinner with friends last night. Several of these good folks are involved with people I only know by name and seeing their faces on TV. The subject of Scalia came up and looong story short, several said that Scalia's death was a cover up. That he was found with a pillow over his face and that the people he went hunting with murdered him in his sleep. Purposely, no autopsy was performed which is now allowing for speculation. Supposedly, lots of hush money was passed around to cover this up and get it out of the public eye as quickly as possible. His hunting buddies were people with extreme wealth from various parts of the world... a very old hunting club, or something.

Even if not true it's an interesting twist, and why did this even get tossed out there. I wonder about that old smoke and fire saying.

DeeCPAP wrote:

PST wrote:

DeeCPAP wrote:

klv329 wrote:I wonder if the medical examiner reviewed the past data from the machine, if it was data capable at all.

Brilliant idea! I hope they saved the machine.

I don't think there has been any involvement by a medical examiner. If I recall the news stories, a judge many miles away discussed the facts by telephone with Justice Scalia's hosts and pronounced his death to be from natural causes. I have no doubt the judge was correct, but we will never know for sure if being unmasked played a part.

When I was first diagnosed with sleep apnea, I assumed that missing an odd night of therapy once in a while wouldn't hurt me, that it was the long-term effects of sleep interruption I had to worry about. My doctor, who's a good guy and a better explainer than most, said there was one big exception. He said that someone who already had heart disease could be pushed over the edge to fatal arrhythmia by an apnea-related episode of low oxygen saturation.

Your comment makes a lot of sense. Thing is, with Scalia, it wasn't a bad way to go. No long dragged out ordeal with growing health problems, hospitalizations and debilitation. In a sense, a lucky guy!

It was worse for the country, than him, in a country where the insane govern us, balance of power is a must. When we appoint a Justice it's like a bad marriage it can last for decades, and the changes can be catastrophic. Jim

As much damage can be done by a wrong judge as a bad president, and it will last for a long time, before it can be righted.

DeeCPAP wrote:

PST wrote:When I was first diagnosed with sleep apnea, I assumed that missing an odd night of therapy once in a while wouldn't hurt me, that it was the long-term effects of sleep interruption I had to worry about. My doctor, who's a good guy and a better explainer than most, said there was one big exception. He said that someone who already had heart disease could be pushed over the edge to fatal arrhythmia by an apnea-related episode of low oxygen saturation.

Your comment makes a lot of sense. Thing is, with Scalia, it wasn't a bad way to go. No long dragged out ordeal with growing health problems, hospitalizations and debilitation. In a sense, a lucky guy!

You are not the only person who has said that to me, but I'm not sure I agree. Maybe someday when I'm infirm and in pain, waiting for something awful to finish me off, I'll sing a different tune. But I hate the idea of just not waking up one day, leaving all my unfinished business for others. Or as Ian Anderson says, "And you place your final burden on your hard-pressed next of kin." Maybe the people who envy Justice Scalia are the organized folks with clean desks and a convenient folder with wills, safety deposit box keys, and bankbooks all in place. We disorderly procrastinators have a million things to do before we shuffle off, and we would feel guilty dying in our sleep. I guess that keeps me using CPAP.

PST wrote:

DeeCPAP wrote:

PST wrote:When I was first diagnosed with sleep apnea, I assumed that missing an odd night of therapy once in a while wouldn't hurt me, that it was the long-term effects of sleep interruption I had to worry about. My doctor, who's a good guy and a better explainer than most, said there was one big exception. He said that someone who already had heart disease could be pushed over the edge to fatal arrhythmia by an apnea-related episode of low oxygen saturation.

Your comment makes a lot of sense. Thing is, with Scalia, it wasn't a bad way to go. No long dragged out ordeal with growing health problems, hospitalizations and debilitation. In a sense, a lucky guy!

You are not the only person who has said that to me, but I'm not sure I agree. Maybe someday when I'm infirm and in pain, waiting for something awful to finish me off, I'll sing a different tune. But I hate the idea of just not waking up one day, leaving all my unfinished business for others. Or as Ian Anderson says, "And you place your final burden on your hard-pressed next of kin." Maybe the people who envy Justice Scalia are the organized folks with clean desks and a convenient folder with wills, safety deposit box keys, and bankbooks all in place. We disorderly procrastinators have a million things to do before we shuffle off, and we would feel guilty dying in our sleep. I guess that keeps me using CPAP.

My tune is the same is yours: I can't go yet, I have too darn much to finish up. Don't worry ... those who'll clean up will probably be in the will, right? I've put off making out mine so that means I can't go yet.