Ramp time

Ramp time is a personal preference thing. When I first started, I set my ramp at 45 minutes so I would get to sleep before the pressure got too high, but I found I would lay there and wait for the pressure to go up before I went to sleep. I tried decreasing it a couple times, and finally turned it off completely. I now fall asleep within ten minutes of turning the lights off.

Susie Kay wrote:

ChicagoGranny wrote:

Susie Kay wrote:If my airway starts to collapse while ramp is running, does the machine respond with increases in pressure?

Here is what the S9 AutoSet clinician's manual says,

Ramp time defines the period during which the pressure gradually increases from a lower more
comfortable start pressure to the minimum AutoSet pressure before the auto-adjusting algorithm
commences. In previous products in the AutoSet range, settling was the period where the device was at
a minimum AutoSet pressure until the auto-adjusting algorithm commenced.

So your model machine will not respond to airway problems during the ramp period.

Good question! Enjoy your evening.

Thank you, Granny! Exactly what I was asking!

Lucyhere wrote:No one should dictate what's right for you.

Thank you. You have the right attitude. If those cranky old men just knew that most people are ignoring what they post here. lol

PoolQ wrote:There has been much talk about just what the machine will or will not do during ramp. The manuals say nothing about it.

Another man. If you would just look at Granny's post a couple above yours, you would know that the manual does explain it.

Great to have the knowledgeable and helpful women on here. Men not so much. lol

WOW what a sexist response, I would assume that if I posted what you have that I would have been blasted and rightly so.

The manual says NOTHING about "just what the machine will or will not do during ramp" regarding treatment of apneas. Just about anything can be wrong when you don't understand the context.

I typically do not give a second chance for raciest or sexist comments (with or without a LOL afterwards) You have the distinction of being the first female that I have ever foe'd, congratulations.

49er wrote:Suzie Kay,

As a female, I am curious why you are on a hating men spree? The guys who responded did nothing to deserve the type of responses you provided. If you felt they weren't very helpful, ignore them and go to the ones that you feel are applicable to your situation. No need to get nasty about it.

49er

Thank you for your words of support, 49er.


Den

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PoolQ wrote:The manual says NOTHING about "just what the machine will or will not do during ramp" regarding treatment of apneas.

Oh, yes it does.

From the S9 AutoSet clinician's manual:

Ramp time defines the period during which the pressure gradually increases from a lower more
comfortable start pressure to the minimum AutoSet pressure before the auto-adjusting algorithm
commences.

That's very clear to me what the machine "will or will not do during ramp". For the S9 AutoSet model, the machine will not respond to conditions in the airway during ramp. (This feature differed in earlier models.)

Do you want to delete the erroneous information you have posted and then posted again?

Wulfman... wrote:Thank you for your words of support, 49er.

Your responses are often much more harsh and snarky than what you have posted in this thread. Is this a tone you like to set in a forum that is dedicated to helping sick people?

Minnie Maunder wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:Thank you for your words of support, 49er.

Your responses are often much more harsh and snarky than what you have posted in this thread. Is this a tone you like to set in a forum that is dedicated to helping sick people?

I totally disagree with your assessment. I usually respond to posts "in kind". If a person seems to have an "attitude" or a "chip on their shoulder", then I respond accordingly. If they seem to be truly asking for help, I respond accordingly.

Historically, I try to keep my posts as brief as I can. If I see a LOOOOONG post from someone, I seldom read it or try to scan for the main points. Since I don't like to read long posts, I don't want to put people to sleep with long posts either.
If "brevity" is your idea of "harsh and snarky", then I guess I'm guilty.

But, after you've been here 10 years and have answered the same questions hundreds or thousands of times, you'll work on "brevity", too. Directing people to the forum Search function isn't being harsh or snarky, either. There's a wealth of information in these forum pages and there's virtually NO "new" subjects or answers.

This thread subject has been discussed many times before, too.......along with what the ResMed machines will or won't do during Ramp......and it IS confusing (and seems to change with each generation). But, from my reading of yours and the posts from "PoolQ", I don't see anything that he should retract that is erroneous.


Den

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Minnie Maunder wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:Thank you for your words of support, 49er.

Your responses are often much more harsh and snarky than what you have posted in this thread. Is this a tone you like to set in a forum that is dedicated to helping sick people?

Looking at your comments in another way.........
If all of my posts were "blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah", few people would read them.
But, adding a little "edge" to those who seem to deserve it, "help" when I can, and a little humor when I can inject some.....MAY get people to ask "What the Hell did he say now???" when they see that I've posted......and they MAY read the thread/post and by reading all of the posts by all who posted MAY give them more information about this therapy.

So, if I'm able to get more newbies and people with questions to read more about this therapy, then "YES", that is MY ulterior motive.

What's yours?


Den

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Minnie Maunder wrote:

PoolQ wrote:The manual says NOTHING about "just what the machine will or will not do during ramp" regarding treatment of apneas.

Oh, yes it does.

From the S9 AutoSet clinician's manual:

Ramp time defines the period during which the pressure gradually increases from a lower more
comfortable start pressure to the minimum AutoSet pressure before the auto-adjusting algorithm
commences.

That's very clear to me what the machine "will or will not do during ramp". For the S9 AutoSet model, the machine will not respond to conditions in the airway during ramp. (This feature differed in earlier models.)

Do you want to delete the erroneous information you have posted and then posted again?

No I do not, but thank you for the offer to adjust my thinking to yours.

So please tell me where in the manual it says that "the machine will not respond to conditions in the airway during ramp" just because it does not say that it will does not mean that it will not.
Also I NEVER said that it will. I stated that there is a Resmed patent covering the subject and that on the A10 I have personally seen the machine make a pressure adjustment during ramp. I did not speculate on why it made this adjustment, just that it did.

I will await your quote backing up your statement along with what document it is from and where in that document I can find it.

I think I have been very clear in what I am and am not saying.

The concern I have with just telling people to use the search feature is that some people have great difficulty getting the search phrase to bring up anything useful. Even Yahoo and Google will come up with different results for the exact same phrase. Not using the search does not mean they are lazy. Just because they post a question that has been asked many times before does not mean that they did not try the search first.