New guy saying hello

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Re: New guy saying hello

Post by KeepSmiling » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:55 pm

R1200ST wrote:First Night done. Couple issues:

1. Had to set humidity at 0. Woke up with face full of moisture. Hose and equipment was set below my bed level. Then woke up with dry mouth. Sigh....
2. Woke up when pressure ramped up pretty high (didn't check to see what it was) with the mask leaking like crazy. It was blowing out everywhere. So I tightened the mask on the face and....
3. Woke up about 2 am with a killer pain in my nose from the mask (deviated septum, broken nose issue) so I will have to get some type of nose pillow

But I did fall asleep, which I would have bet money that was impossible. So knowing that, it is just time to keep adjusting things until I get it right.

I am really mostly concerned with getting the humidity level right. Anyone use the SYSTEM ONE humidification settings instead of the 1,2,3 manual setting?

There was a comment above about cold air versus moisture. To me when I pulled the mask off, there was condensation in the nose cup and in the cheek area of the mask to the point that I used a tissue to wipe it out. So I THINK it is condensation / humidity.
Is your house really cold/AC on right now that it will condense the moisture. Not me but someone using a nasal mask found moisture with the room at 72F at night, 74F night and cooling to 72F early morning. No water humidifier in place. -- Under same temperatures with my Hybrid, I find the skin around my mouth warm, no issues with my nose, but no moisture in the mask, no heated hose. No humidifier set up. Both machines on floor.

Do you have a heated hose not sure if the System one has a heated hose and if yes, if the hose will heat up when the setting for the humidifier is at zero.

I know this is stating the obvious, but will say it anyway, your dry mouth is from mouth breathing. I do not know if many mouth breathers ever get rid of dry mouth from the humidifier.

I am assuming you had water in the humidifier chamber. That is what Passover Humidifiers are, the larger surface area of water the more humidity.

I know you mentioned a broken nose and deviated septum, but I do not know if you have a total blockage. I have a deviated septum as well, with allergies both sides got congested because one smaller and the other compensated, or that is what the Dr had said. The good thing about cpap is that there are filters for the air.



During the day can you breath through your nose? If Yes and

Has your ENT told you not to use direct CPAP pillows to your nose? if No

I would suggest either taping your mouth shut or using a chin strap to see if that prevents the dry mouth.

I know it is not recommended, but I had better results with no humidifier and a heated hose when I first started therapy. The humidifier congested my nose. I used the hose because the air in the winter was to cold . Now I use the regular hose not even covered, but the house is a bit warmer then it used to be way back when. I remember using moisture sprays initially for my nose to prevent dryness. I do nothing special now.

I used to cover my hose as well. I think her name was Pad a cheek (corrected name, saw it on forum and remembered) from this board that I gotten a light blue fleece cover for the hose. Nice in the winter in a cold room, because touching the hose to my skin would jar me awake.
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Re: New guy saying hello

Post by R1200ST » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:22 am

Sleepyhead really thanks for all the information.

Yes, the house is set at 72 degrees for the temp. I tried again last night. I put water in the chamber but I set the humidifier at 0 and still had a dry mouth (like you say below, I am a mouth breather) and had condensation in the mask. Full face mask with a nose cup and again I woke up with my nose covered in water.

My ENT has not been brought into this situation so I do not know what he would say regarding taping my mouth, but I think I will change the mask to the nose pillows with full mouth.

Last night I tightened the mask too tight and woke up with pains in my cheek area and of course bridge of my nose. So today I am going to play with the mask and get it perfect.

Alright back to work.

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Re: New guy saying hello

Post by Pugsy » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:21 am

Those 3 digits I asked you about earlier on the bottom of the blower...they might have DS, P, or REF in front or behind them....which is it 550 or 560 ?

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Re: New guy saying hello

Post by R1200ST » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:43 am

The part number for the system is DS6HFLG

system one resperionics.

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Re: New guy saying hello

Post by Pugsy » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:44 am

That's the humidifier number for the 50 series machines....what is the blower number?
I am trying to determine exactly which model machine you are using.
As it is right now the humidifier choice you have in your profile points to a humidifier that won't work at all with the system one machines.

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Re: New guy saying hello

Post by Pugsy » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:51 am

Moisture in your mask when the humidifier was set to 0 ....that's coming from the moisture in your own exhaled breath condensing in the mask because the room air temp is cool enough to let it happen.
It's going to present some challenges if you decide you want some humidity this winter when bedroom temps are typically cooler. In other words if you are experiencing rain out in the mask now with no added humidity from the humidifier it's not going to likely improve this winter.

If you do have a 50 series machine....those were discontinued 3 years ago...how come you don't have a 60 series machine?

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Re: New guy saying hello

Post by R1200ST » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:06 am

OK my system is the 560P

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Re: New guy saying hello

Post by Pugsy » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:43 am

R1200ST wrote:my system is the 560P
The correct machine choice in the profile equipment menu is
PR System One 60 series Auto CPAP but that link appears to be broken for some unknown reason.
I suggest you just add it to your comments line "PR S1 60 Series Auto CPAP" The Remstar part of the model names is useless...they ALL have had Remstar tagged on them since time began and means nothing.
The correct humidifier choice would be
PR S1 60 Series Heated Tube Humidifier with Heated tube
even if you don't have the optional heated hose at this time...this is the only humidifier that works with the 560 machine.

Knowing exactly which model machine you are using helps use help you better because there are different options available depending on the model.

The model 560 has the optional heated hose but requires the special lid and power supply that I mentioned above. I don't know if you need a heated hose or not. Just wanted to let you know your options.

You can disregard the software menu options as all those options are way old and refer back to when cpap.com sold the software.

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