Sample reports from Sleepyhead and Oximetry.

[Burkebang]

Today I got my first report from Sleepyhead where I was able to import the data from my pulseoximeter. What a fantastic thing it is to have all my data syncronised and displayed like this. I wanted to show it to you and maybe also get some comments about my sleep from those with more experience in judging graphs than me.

Apart from an episode of rainout (03.30 - 04.00), in the small hose of my new Swift FX, I felt like I had a good nights sleep.
Feel free to download or link to the PDF's as samples, if you need to show someone how a report looks. I also include the Oximetry report from the software that came with the pulseoximeter for the same night as the Sleepyhead report.

Sleepyhead report
Oximetry report

Just think if Jedimark is able to incorporate sleep phase data from the Zeo also, we'll have allmost a complete sleeplab setup for less than $200 in addition to a supported CPAP machine. We'll be able to see the events, what they do to our O2 level, how our hearts reacts, how the machine responds, if it wakes us up and what sleep phase it all happens in.
And it just might happen viewtopic/t72950/Decrypt-your-Zeo-Bedside-Data.html

I also got the Devilbiss Smartlink Desktop program when I bought Smartlink module, that program is great for someone running a DME, I think that Sleepyhead is much better for us patients, that are only interested in monitoring our therapy. So if you are on the fence about getting a Smartlink module, my advice is to save your money and get the module only and use Sleepyhead.

[MaxDarkside]

Cool! Here's mine, where I screen shot from SleepyHead, CMS 50E viewer and Zeo web and align them in PowerPoint by eye:



I'm still trying to figure out how to get the oximetry on the same stack of charts as my Resmed data, as I can open an *.spor and get it on the Oximetry tab of SleepyHead, but not on the tab for the ResMed data. Or are you real-time recording during the night into SleepyHead?

[Burkebang]

That is a very nice grapf and a very good taste of what's hopefully coming

To get the SpO2 data correctly into Sleepyhead I do the following:
First time only:
In Sleepyhead, go to file-preferences, click on the oximetry tab and click on the "Link Oximetry and CPAP graphs". OK out and close Sleepyhead.

Remember to start and stop the oximeter at the same time when you start and stop the CPAP, this makes the whole thing much easier.
Open Sleapyhead and import CPAP data.
With the CPAP data open and showing in the Dayly tab, click on the Oximetry tab.
Now connect your oximeter and put it in the mode where it transfers data, If there is an upload entry in the menu, activate it, on the CMS50D+, I only press the button so it shows the menu items.
Then, click on the IMPORT button in the lower right corner of the Oximetry tab. Allow the data to upload, a green progressbar will show where you are in the process.
When the data is imported, check that the time indicated at the bottom is the same as in the CPAP data in the DAYLY tab. Now go back to Oximetry and click on the OPEN button in the lower right corner, the program will ask to save the session, click yes, click yes to everything.
If everything went well, when you return to the DAYLY tab, your oximetry and pulsegrapfs should be there. It will be permanently saved togeather with your CPAP data.

[Papit]

Thanks, Burkebank, for the tip re. Dropbox. I'll look into that for sure.

I'm intrigued what you guys are doing. Sounds fun and interesting with health benefits! What do you think about the REM graphical indications? That's a whole lot of REM showing up. Is it credible? Do you and you too, MarkDarkside, notice a clearly significant improvement in alertness, energy levels, etc. during the day after a night of enjoying so much REM?

Also, do you notice a clear and direct correlation of dreaming during nights when the graphs show so much REM sleep? As an engineer/scientist sort, I've been trained and taught from the beginning to look deep for substantiation and hard evidence. What do you think?

Thanks, --Papit

[jedimark]

Cool! Here's mine, where I screen shot from SleepyHead, CMS 50E viewer and Zeo web and align them in PowerPoint by eye:



I'm still trying to figure out how to get the oximetry on the same stack of charts as my Resmed data, as I can open an *.spor and get it on the Oximetry tab of SleepyHead, but not on the tab for the ResMed data. Or are you real-time recording during the night into SleepyHead?

Newly released version 0.9.1 makes this a little less painful.. Can individual open .spo* files right in the oximetry tab.. you can change the start time manually, also re-open them once saved.. (click on the sessionID of the oximetry session down the bottom of Details tab in Daily view) Also should behave slightly better with CMS50E/F.

That screenshot is neat.. I can't wait to add Zeo support.. The loader stub has been patiently waiting since the beginning.. Hopefully this Zeo CSV support will be a new feature in 0.9.2..

Zeo unfortunately won't sell their devices to Australia yet, so I need to start collecting data elsewhere..

I've got a bit already to get started, but I really need a full set to really do it justice.. (eg, matching oximetry, CPAP & Zeo csv data)

Any volunteers, please PM me

This kinda stuff is the crux of why I started writing sleepyhead.. I really wanted something capable of comparing different data sources..

[jedimark]

That is a very nice grapf and a very good taste of what's hopefully coming

To get the SpO2 data correctly into Sleepyhead I do the following:
First time only:
In Sleepyhead, go to file-preferences, click on the oximetry tab and click on the "Link Oximetry and CPAP graphs". OK out and close Sleepyhead.

Remember to start and stop the oximeter at the same time when you start and stop the CPAP, this makes the whole thing much easier.
Open Sleapyhead and import CPAP data.
With the CPAP data open and showing in the Dayly tab, click on the Oximetry tab.
Now connect your oximeter and put it in the mode where it transfers data, If there is an upload entry in the menu, activate it, on the CMS50D+, I only press the button so it shows the menu items.
Then, click on the IMPORT button in the lower right corner of the Oximetry tab. Allow the data to upload, a green progressbar will show where you are in the process.
When the data is imported, check that the time indicated at the bottom is the same as in the CPAP data in the DAYLY tab. Now go back to Oximetry and click on the OPEN button in the lower right corner, the program will ask to save the session, click yes, click yes to everything.
If everything went well, when you return to the DAYLY tab, your oximetry and pulsegrapfs should be there. It will be permanently saved togeather with your CPAP data.

Well described.. Thank you for that..

Just a further note for anyone wondering.. It's only the starting times that matter as far as sync goes.. You can stop and later restart the CPAP machine if you need to get up in the night.. Just keep the oximeter recording.. (which it will do even if you take it off your finger, so your not tied to anything.. SleepyHead will automatically prune out the time it's off your finger, without affecting sync)

As long as the the first CPAP session of the day is when you started the oximeter, you'll get good sync..

Of course it looks better if you stop them at the same time too..

Mine always falls off in the middle of the night.. I've nearly flicked it across the room a couple of times without realizing..
My fathers solution when I tried it on him was a sock over his hand..

[MaxDarkside]

First, thank you Burkebang and jedimark.

What do you think about the REM graphical indications? That's a whole lot of REM showing up. Is it credible?

Yes, I think it's credible since REM shows in the Zeo and also in the other measures

Do you and you too, MarkDarkside, notice a clearly significant improvement in alertness, energy levels, etc. during the day after a night of enjoying so much REM?

Yes and no. Better than before SA treatment, yes. But I'm still so groggy during the day. Someone in another thread pointed out my sleep onset REM, which I had not noticed, which does appear in *every* Zeo plot and maybe confirmed by ResMed / oximetry. So I may have a mild case of narcolepsy (who knew! Good to know if true, may go back to the Dr. later to confirm deny). The narcolepsy would explain my daytime grogginess.

Also, do you notice a clear and direct correlation of dreaming during nights when the graphs show so much REM sleep? As an engineer/scientist sort, I've been trained and taught from the beginning to look deep for substantiation and hard evidence. What do you think?

I'm not noticing more dreaming, but that may be because of ability recall that I did. I do remember dreaming. I don't know that the dreaming is more significant than before apnea treatment.

[Lizistired]

Max, My Zeo reports show sleep onset REM too. Jay and I discussed this in another thread and I had assumed it was an inaccuracy in the Zeo reporting. I just did some reading on narcolepsy too. I guess I'll have to look at the data more closely. It seems that it was showing REM when I knew I was still awake. When I get it back from my brother I'll try reading before sleep and stop/start the apap to mark the time I actually try to go to sleep. I just can't read very long before I'm asleep.

[MaxDarkside]

Max, My Zeo reports show sleep onset REM too. Jay and I discussed this in another thread and I had assumed it was an inaccuracy in the Zeo reporting.

This is what I was assuming too. However, and I'm not a hypochondriac (well, not too much that is ), as I look into this, I may have mild narcolepsy and I can patch it into some familial things (mother, sons). What I'm going to do is continue on for another month of xPAP therapy, investigate the onset Zeo thing, maybe by looking at real-time brainwaves from the device, and if the indicators continue I will contact my sleep doctor / neurologist and see if he wants to do some narcolepsy tests and if positive, maybe give me some of the appropriate meds to de-grog. Today I am so very groggy even with about 7 hrs.

Every one of my Zeo charts shows onset REM.

]I guess I'll have to look at the data more closely. It seems that it was showing REM when I knew I was still awake.

I think I'll wear the headband during the day and see how much Wake it marks as REM.

Thanks!

[MaxDarkside]

I think I'll wear the headband during the day and see how much Wake it marks as REM.

I just wore the headband for more than an hour and the 1st 5 min. bar showed "Light Sleep" probably because I was putting it on, but all the other many bars correctly showed "Wake". Humm...

[Burkebang]

Zeo unfortunately won't sell their devices to Australia yet, so I need to start collecting data elsewhere..

I've got a bit already to get started, but I really need a full set to really do it justice.. (eg, matching oximetry, CPAP & Zeo csv data)

Any volunteers, please PM me

This kinda stuff is the crux of why I started writing sleepyhead.. I really wanted something capable of comparing different data sources..

My tracking shows that my Zeo will arrive either tomorrow or the next day. I will collect data and help out in any way I can.

What we really should do, is to get a Zeo and send it to Jedimark. I'd volunteer to do it, but shipping is TERRIBLY expensive in Norway, the shipping would cost as much as the Zeo in the first place. If a well respected forum member would volunteer, I'm sure there is enough very satisfied Sleepyhead users here to be able to collect enough donations to get a Zeo off to Mark. Pugsy? Are you interested?

[MaxDarkside]

Maybe jedimark only needs some data. Easy to email that to him.

Just so happened to talk with my sleep doctor / neurologist's nurse (she called me!) and describing my situation/symptoms/data/findings she confirms I likely have narcolepsy and wanted me to come in for testing. I will wait 30 days and gather more info first. I would not have known of this if it were not for many of you here and for getting my Zeo. I'll gather more facts, then maybe I can get some help.

[Burkebang]

Maybe jedimark only needs some data. Easy to email that to him.

Just so happened to talk with my sleep doctor / neurologist's nurse (she called me!) and describing my situation/symptoms/data/findings she confirms I likely have narcolepsy and wanted me to come in for testing. I will wait 30 days and gather more info first. I would not have known of this if it were not for many of you here and for getting my Zeo. I'll gather more facts, then maybe I can get some help.

I hope you get the help you need Max, the more data you collect, the better your sleep doc can diagnose you.

I'm sure that Jedimark will make good use of the data he'll receive. However, I think it would be much better and more inspiring if he had his own to tinker around with
Considering the time he spends creating this software and lets us all enjoy the benefits for free, I think a Zeo would be a nice little gift for his kindness from the community of users.
I hope somebody with enough "tracktime" in this forum to be trusted by the majority of users, will pick up on this and do something about it.

[Kairosgrammy]

What is te and Ti?

Today I got my first report from Sleepyhead where I was able to import the data from my pulseoximeter. What a fantastic thing it is to have all my data syncronised and displayed like this. I wanted to show it to you and maybe also get some comments about my sleep from those with more experience in judging graphs than me.

Apart from an episode of rainout (03.30 - 04.00), in the small hose of my new Swift FX, I felt like I had a good nights sleep.
Feel free to download or link to the PDF's as samples, if you need to show someone how a report looks. I also include the Oximetry report from the software that came with the pulseoximeter for the same night as the Sleepyhead report.

Sleepyhead report
Oximetry report

Just think if Jedimark is able to incorporate sleep phase data from the Zeo also, we'll have allmost a complete sleeplab setup for less than $200 in addition to a supported CPAP machine. We'll be able to see the events, what they do to our O2 level, how our hearts reacts, how the machine responds, if it wakes us up and what sleep phase it all happens in.
And it just might happen viewtopic/t72950/Decrypt-your-Zeo-Bedside-Data.html

I also got the Devilbiss Smartlink Desktop program when I bought Smartlink module, that program is great for someone running a DME, I think that Sleepyhead is much better for us patients, that are only interested in monitoring our therapy. So if you are on the fence about getting a Smartlink module, my advice is to save your money and get the module only and use Sleepyhead.

[Pugsy]

What we really should do, is to get a Zeo and send it to Jedimark. I'd volunteer to do it, but shipping is TERRIBLY expensive in Norway, the shipping would cost as much as the Zeo in the first place. If a well respected forum member would volunteer, I'm sure there is enough very satisfied Sleepyhead users here to be able to collect enough donations to get a Zeo off to Mark. Pugsy? Are you interested?

I waited to respond till I had my facts straight. There is a donation link on the Sourceforge Sleephead page.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sleepyhead/
This goes to Jedimark PayPal account. While I would be happy to try to moderate donations why not just bypass me and let the donations go directly to Jedimark? That way much timelier and zero chance of anything getting screwed up.

Many years ago I worked with a gentleman in England who developed a little script for Windows XP and older computer (yeah, long time ago) that specialized in malware removal. The spyware stuff that was brand new and antivirus programs or other standard anti spyware programs couldn't kill. He made it free to all and maintained a very nice website with lots of information available for free. The first month that his new spyware removal tool was made available to the public it was downloaded over 29,000 times worldwide. Not one single person donated. Not even a measly dollar and it was an extremely effective tool suggested in malware removal programs all over the world.

If you all appreciate Mark's efforts and want to help him out and/or want him to work with your Zeo.... make a donation to his PayPal account directly. While I know our numbers here aren't huge....it wouldn't take many modest donations to pay for a Zeo.

While I personally don't care about the Zeo stuff I can sure appreciate that others value it so next week I plan to make a little donation to his PayPal account when I get my check and show my appreciation for his hard work in general and if he wants to put the money in a pool to buy a Zeo....I am all for it.