Philips Recalls Everything

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Philips Recalls Everything

Post by Dreaming1 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:59 am

Anyone here seen this? Philips is recalling everything because of cancer risk:
https://www.usa.philips.com/healthcare/ ... src-update

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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by KingSnore » Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:13 am

omg. I wish I knew if my model was for sure affected.

60 Series REMstar Pro.
It says the System One Q Series is, and the picture it shows looks exactly like mine. But on the label of mine it just says REMstar Pro C-Flex +

hmmmm
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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by Pugsy » Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:32 am

KingSnore wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:13 am
omg. I wish I knew if my model was for sure affected.

60 Series REMstar Pro.
It says the System One Q Series is, and the picture it shows looks exactly like mine. But on the label of mine it just says REMstar Pro C-Flex +

hmmmm
I would assume it is affected based on the list of unaffected machines and the System One models aren't on the unaffected list.
We don't see any System One models on the unaffected list.

I am unsure as to what "Q series" actually means because the term Q wasn't ever really something we saw mentioned. I would assume (until proven otherwise) that it is an overall general classification as to models similar to what we had with the "M series" model line.
In other words, until proven otherwise, I would assume that all System One machines are part of the Q series.
Better to be cautious and play it safe.
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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by Dog Slobber » Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:59 am

Dreaming1 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:59 am
Anyone here seen this? Philips is recalling everything because of cancer risk:
https://www.usa.philips.com/healthcare/ ... src-update

While the Press release does mention the potential for carcinogenic effects, saying Philips is recalling everything because of cancer risk is alarmist and disingenuous.
In the event of exposure to degraded foam:
  • The potential risks of degraded foam exposure include:
    • Irritation (skin, eye, and respiratory tract), inflammatory response, headache, asthma, adverse effects to other organs (e.g. kidneys and liver) and toxic carcinogenic affects.
  • To date, Philips Respironics has received several complaints regarding the presence of black debris/particles within the airpath circuit (extending from the device outlet, humidifier, tubing, and mask). Philips also has received reports of headache, upper airway irritation, cough, chest pressure and sinus infection.


In the event of exposure to chemical emissions:
  • The potential risks of exposure due to chemical emissions from affected foam include: headache/dizziness, irritation (eyes, nose, respiratory tract, skin), hypersensitivity, nausea/vomiting, toxic and carcinogenic effects.
  • To date, Philips has not received reports of patient impact or serious harm as a result of this issue.

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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by Goofproof » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:13 am

I told them not to sell their products in California, even Pet Rocks cause Cancer in California. :roll: Jim

Investing in my three outdated "Tanks", that I use every night and keep running like a E-Bunny, seem to be a better investment every day. :wink:
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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by Dreaming1 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:14 am

You have got to be kidding. Alarmist my backside. Did you look at the sheer number of units and types being effected?

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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by Dreaming1 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:15 am

Here's the rest of all the images of the machines effected by the recall. Certainly nothing here to be alarmed over here...disregard and go about your business.

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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by jimbud » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:21 am

I sure am glad I bought a spare Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset for my spare Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset a year ago.

I have a feeling they are about to be in short supply... shortly.

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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:33 am

Question: At what rate does foam disintegrate when NOT exposed to ozone?
I would say if one has never drank the ozone-flavored Kool-Aid,
then one could ignore the "recall", as the timing of said warning "coincides" with
THE RELEASE OF NEW MODELS.
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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by Pugsy » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:48 am

jimbud wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:21 am
I sure am glad I bought a spare Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset for my spare Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset a year ago.

I have a feeling they are about to be in short supply... shortly.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: That means my back up AirSense 10 for Her AutoSet sitting in my closet just doubled in value. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by jimbud » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:57 am

Pugsy wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:48 am
Supply and demand rules the marketplace.
I got an email from cpap.com "our sponsor" about a sale on machines for Fathers Day this morning.
Business will be good, I suspect. :wink:

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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by Goofproof » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:08 am

For Sale, used Remstar "Tank" CPAP, Low Hours less than 16,000 use, Only $ 1,000 in Gold Only or Food and Ammo to be worked out later. Delivery will be after I no longer have a need for it. Jim
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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by jimbud » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:18 am

I see new ads for used machines with the statement:

Used CPAP for sale.

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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by Grumpy48 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:22 am

It will be interesting to see how, by who, and when the end user of one of these machines gets 'officially' notified. A lot of work and cost for a DME to do exchanges/replacements and if Phillips were to do it direct, the prescribed settings would need to be applied to the replacement unit at some point.

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Re: Philips Recalls Everything

Post by Dog Slobber » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:27 am

Dreaming1 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:14 am
You have got to be kidding. Alarmist my backside. Did you look at the sheer number of units and types being effected?
Dreaming1 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:15 am
Here's the rest of all the images of the machines effected by the recall. Certainly nothing here to be alarmed over here...disregard and go about your business.
Perhaps you should look up what Alarmist actually means, it has nothing to do with how many machines are being recalled and everything to do with exaggerating a danger.

Some of those machines are over 15 years old and to date not one report of cancer attributed to Philips device usage:

To date, Philips has not received reports of patient impact or serious harm as a result of this issue.
So yes, the very definition of Alarmist.

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