Sleepyhead data help?

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Sleepyhead data help?

Post by Franky » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:19 pm

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Im very new to the cpap world....but trying to learn. Can anyone give me some pointers about this data? Just getting started and hoping to get this thing fine tuned without having to visit the doc office every time I turn around. Many thanks...this seems like a nice forum to learn on. Hope I got the picture up right.....new to computer stuff too....well kinda lol. What say you? Thanks again.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by palerider » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:26 pm

Franky wrote:http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f144/ ... d46aa9.png


Im very new to the cpap world....but trying to learn. Can anyone give me some pointers about this data? Just getting started and hoping to get this thing fine tuned without having to visit the doc office every time I turn around. Many thanks...this seems like a nice forum to learn on. Hope I got the picture up right.....new to computer stuff too....well kinda lol. What say you? Thanks again.
you got the pic posted well enough for a start, though if you highlight the url there and click 'img' above the posting window, it'll embed it in the post.

second, turn off the calendar (click the ^ by the date) and turn off the right sidebar next time.

then read the first post in the announcement section about using and interpreting sleepyhead output, and you'll likely have a lot of your questions answered.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by Franky » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:26 pm

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DISCO! Hope this is right this time. I highly appreciate any help.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by palerider » Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:52 pm

generally the charts to show are event flags, flow, pressure, (or mask pressure, but not both) leaks, snore, flow limits, as many will fit, (you can drag the charts around and resize them to make a good display.

the other charts are more specialized and may get requested now and again, but the ones up there are the biggies, in decreasing order of 'importance'. the snore and FL charts are more often useful in a 'why did my apap do xxx' questions.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by Franky » Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:12 pm

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by Franky » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:03 am

palerider wrote:generally the charts to show are event flags, flow, pressure, (or mask pressure, but not both) leaks, snore, flow limits, as many will fit, (you can drag the charts around and resize them to make a good display.

the other charts are more specialized and may get requested now and again, but the ones up there are the biggies, in decreasing order of 'importance'. the snore and FL charts are more often useful in a 'why did my apap do xxx' questions.
Is that last one I posted all the info needed? I am certainly sleeping better with the machine but was hoping I could get some fine tuning hints and tricks. Thanks for any suggestions or help anyone could offer.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by palerider » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:49 am

Franky wrote:
palerider wrote:generally the charts to show are event flags, flow, pressure, (or mask pressure, but not both) leaks, snore, flow limits, as many will fit, (you can drag the charts around and resize them to make a good display.

the other charts are more specialized and may get requested now and again, but the ones up there are the biggies, in decreasing order of 'importance'. the snore and FL charts are more often useful in a 'why did my apap do xxx' questions.
Is that last one I posted all the info needed? I am certainly sleeping better with the machine but was hoping I could get some fine tuning hints and tricks. Thanks for any suggestions or help anyone could offer.
you missed the event flags.

scrunch the graphs down a little and post last nights.

based on the one chart, I'd think a bump of minimum pressure would be good, but having ahi down in the 1's are really good.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by Franky » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:25 am

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I guess I'm doing whats right lol. Hope someone can help me out some. Thanks for the help thusfar....and thanks for your patience. AHI 1.72 last night.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by Pugsy » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:41 am

Not the events tab on the left...the events graph on the top right side.
So that these graphs are shown on the right side...>Events, Flow Rate, Pressure and Leak. You can turn off unneeded graphs and resize the 4 graphs so they easily fit on one screen shot.
then on the left side where the AHI is broken down....turn off the pie chart (option in preferences) and let the statistics on the detail tab move up into the picture....which I see you have done by hiding the calendar.

Without seeing the events graph (upper right) based on the AHI and the flow rate graphs it looks like there is just a bit of what I call "clutter" hanging around that Events graph with snores being the main item.

Snores are usually easily dealt with by using just a little more minimum pressure to better hold the airway open and prevent those snores better in the first place. Snores are a warning sign that the airway is trying to collapse and snores and Flow limitation are the 2 main things that the machine will try to increase the pressure to prevent them from happening or prevent them from growing up to become a full grown apnea event.

If you are sleeping well and feeling decent there is no real urgent need to change anything but if it were me I would probably want to clean up the "clutter" just a little bit because in the past I have discovered that the "clutter" sometimes points not optimal sleep quality...almost but not quite there.
Since you are using a low minimum pressure you really have a lot of room to play with.
6 or 7 minimum should clean things up nicely.

Oh...here's an example of my PR S1 report showing things how I like to see them. Also is a good example of a probable REM stage sleep cluster. My OSA is worse in REM sleep. This one was unusually nasty for some reason or other. This report is a bit ugly but it wasn't my norm.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by palerider » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:44 am

Franky wrote: I guess I'm doing whats right lol. Hope someone can help me out some. Thanks for the help thusfar....and thanks for your patience. AHI 1.72 last night.
no no, not the event TAB, always show the detail tab... and then event FLAGS chart, and never the calendar.

but, it's looking ok.

use the screenshot button or view/screenshot

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by Franky » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:21 am

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I feel like a dumb ass....but if the shoe f......whatever. Maybe thats better....this computer stuff is almost like the Greek language to me lol.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by palerider » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:10 pm

Franky wrote: I feel like a dumb ass....but if the shoe f......whatever..
no no, leave the shoes on the floor! we're talking about face stuff here... opposite end from the ass

yes, that last graph is good

and you're doing quite good, could be better, but the chart looks pretty good. like I said, maybe a little more lower pressure.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by Pugsy » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:14 pm

When people ask for our help interpreting their graphs it really helps if we can see what we are used to seeing so that we can offer our best insight with minimal images to look at. Then if something special is needed then we ask for it.
When we get snippets and bits and pieces it's really hard to get an overall image in our head as to how the night went.

Without a clear picture we are pretty much guessing and that's not what we really want to be doing.

This last image is perfect. Let's me see easily at a glance the high points to the entire night's therapy.
It's pretty much like I expected...a little bit of "clutter" with the Flow limitations and snores.
While not urgent that they be cleaned up a bit...wouldn't hurt to use a little more minimum pressure to help reduce the snores and FLs and the hyponeas will also likely reduce in number a bit. Not that they are horrible now.
Just a minor little tweak...probably 0.5 or 1.0 cm increase in the minimum pressure is all that would be needed to clean things up a little.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by Franky » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:17 pm

OK gonna bump the min to 6 tonight and see. Thanks everyone for any and all advice.

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Re: Sleepyhead data help?

Post by Franky » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:20 am

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You guys must know what to do! Getting better....I think lol. Maybe I'll bump the bottom pressure up alittle more and see? Or maybe give it another night or so? Many thanks for all your help. Its great getting this advice...I don't feel all alone with this stuff. I think this machine is helping me feel better. I just want to get the most out of it I possibly can. Many thanks for all the help and support.