Speed drying for Cpap Hose?

[Guest]

... anyone use a hair dryer, or have other drying tips?

I use a small fan to blow room air through the hose. I have a picture of it, but cannot figure out how to post an photo on this forum.

The fan is a small 5V 7500rmp 7CFM fan. It's size is 1.25x1.25x.50 inches. I wired this to a USB cable so that it can be powered by a cell-phone charger. Then I made a shroud for the fan. It's about 2 inches long and the inside is conical. At one end 1.25 dia. At the other end, about .62 dia ID. This end has a .875" OD and can fit to one or more hoses strung together.

On the other end, the fan is mounted.

The fan costs about $7. The 3D printed shroud made from nylon cost $27. The USB cable cost about $3. I also needed some hot glue and a soldering iron to make the electrical connections.

Use it every day. Rinse the hose through a fitting that attaches to my shower - then hook it up to a dryer.

Once a week, us use an aquarium pump to pump soapy water through the hose for a few hours.

The problem with drying, is that the water causes the humidity to reach 100% because the air is stagnant. It's kind of like a terrarium, but it's inside your hose. Great environment for molds, etc.

Heated air may dry it more quickly. Thought of using an hair dryer at first, getting the end piped to force air into the end of a hose took a little more doing that the route that I took.

this is really not necessary at all
the tap water and room air both contain bacteria
each time you open your hose to the room air you introduce some (more)
keep your filters clean and the (hose) system closed is your best bet against foreign particles
and helps to build a healthy immune system

[martinsr00]

You repeatedly demonstrate that you don't have a damned clue what you're talking about, haven't done your homework and spew "nonsense".
Den

Well Den

It's less than refreshing to see someone, when they see something they don't like, get insulting.

If you don't agree, simply say so.

But I see so many people on this forum try to manage someone else's risk. "That's not necessary" (because they've never had a problem). "A waste of time" (because they don't do it). But just maybe that other person has a poor immune system and they don't. Error, confidently delivered, is still error.

Is it likely that someone would get Legionnaires disease or Pontiac Fever from a cpap carry-over humidifer? No. The chance is remote. But the CDC asks in their outbreak questionnaires "Did you use a nebulizer, CPAP, BiPAP, or any other respiratory therapy equipment for the treatment of sleep apnea, COPD, asthma, or for any other reason?" The overall point in my original post was -- "Be prudent -- our machines create a high humidity environment that may stay moist day after day, and become mediums for pathogen growth. -- Be aware."

And because some of us may "do our homework", it doesn't settle the issue. Science delivers evidence -- not truth. It's impossible scientifically to prove a negative.

Is it possible that poor humidifier/hose hygiene could make someone sick? I say that it is possible. I've heard others on this forum that claimed to have become sick. Others may suspect otherwise. For me, I think it prudent to take steps to clean my equipment that I'm comfortable with. Why not entertain different opinions and let the readers decide for themselves?

Without geting nasty.

Marty

[LSAT]

You repeatedly demonstrate that you don't have a damned clue what you're talking about, haven't done your homework and spew "nonsense".
Den

Well Den

It's less than refreshing to see someone, when they see something they don't like, get insulting.

If you don't agree, simply say so.

But I see so many people on this forum try to manage someone else's risk. "That's not necessary" (because they've never had a problem). "A waste of time" (because they don't do it). But just maybe that other person has a poor immune system and they don't. Error, confidently delivered, is still error.

Is it likely that someone would get Legionnaires disease or Pontiac Fever from a cpap carry-over humidifer? No. The chance is remote. But the CDC asks in their outbreak questionnaires "Did you use a nebulizer, CPAP, BiPAP, or any other respiratory therapy equipment for the treatment of sleep apnea, COPD, asthma, or for any other reason?" The overall point in my original post was -- "Be prudent -- our machines create a high humidity environment that may stay moist day after day, and become mediums for pathogen growth. -- Be aware."

And because some of us may "do our homework", it doesn't settle the issue. Science delivers evidence -- not truth. It's impossible scientifically to prove a negative.

Is it possible that poor humidifier/hose hygiene could make someone sick? I say that it is possible. I've heard others on this forum that claimed to have become sick. Others may suspect otherwise. For me, I think it prudent to take steps to clean my equipment that I'm comfortable with. Why not entertain different opinions and let the readers decide for themselves?

Without geting nasty.

Marty

I don't agree! I don't think Den was insulting or nasty.

[Denial Dave]

stand on your front porch and whirl the hose around your head for a few minutes..

it'll dry it out AND amuse the neighborhood kids..

[StuUnderPressure]

stand on your front porch and whirl the hose around your head for a few minutes..

it'll dry it out AND amuse the neighborhood kids..

It may amuse the kids, but I'll bet it will also void the short warranty.

[Guest]

who in this thread has indicated they have a compromised immune system?

anyone who has managed to get an infection has more than likely introduced the bacteria when and while cleaning their equipment

[Wulfman...]

You repeatedly demonstrate that you don't have a damned clue what you're talking about, haven't done your homework and spew "nonsense".
Den

Well Den

It's less than refreshing to see someone, when they see something they don't like, get insulting.

If you don't agree, simply say so.

But I see so many people on this forum try to manage someone else's risk. "That's not necessary" (because they've never had a problem). "A waste of time" (because they don't do it). But just maybe that other person has a poor immune system and they don't. Error, confidently delivered, is still error.

Is it likely that someone would get Legionnaires disease or Pontiac Fever from a cpap carry-over humidifer? No. The chance is remote. But the CDC asks in their outbreak questionnaires "Did you use a nebulizer, CPAP, BiPAP, or any other respiratory therapy equipment for the treatment of sleep apnea, COPD, asthma, or for any other reason?" The overall point in my original post was -- "Be prudent -- our machines create a high humidity environment that may stay moist day after day, and become mediums for pathogen growth. -- Be aware."

And because some of us may "do our homework", it doesn't settle the issue. Science delivers evidence -- not truth. It's impossible scientifically to prove a negative.

Is it possible that poor humidifier/hose hygiene could make someone sick? I say that it is possible. I've heard others on this forum that claimed to have become sick. Others may suspect otherwise. For me, I think it prudent to take steps to clean my equipment that I'm comfortable with. Why not entertain different opinions and let the readers decide for themselves?

Without geting nasty.

Marty

I DON'T agree.......and that"s was about as "nice" as I could be, under the circumstances.
You just throw out "garbage" and think it will stick somewhere without any push-back.
You mix terminology and "junk" and try to apply it to XPAP therapy........without any verification or documentation.
An XPAP does NOT "aerosolize" water......it converts it into a "vapor". Water vapor is too small to carry viruses or bacteria out of a HH tank. An aerosol is still in a liquid state (and not part of the way the XPAP distributes humidity to the user).

We had a similar (but different) discussion last week, but I guess you missed out on that.

So, (again) to back up my "facts", I'll let the links speak for themselves.

http : // www . cdc .gov/legionella/about/

http : // www .cdc . gov/legionella/about/causes-transmission . html

http : // www . cdc . gov/legionella/about/prevention . html

http : // www . cdc .gov/legionella/fastfacts . html


http : // www . fphcare . com/sleep-apnea/education-support/faqs/

http : // www . talkaboutsleep . com/category/sleep-apnea/page/3/

http : // journal . publications . chestnet . org/pdfaccess . ashx?ResourceID=2117327&PDFSource=13


Den

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[Wulfman...]

who in this thread has indicated they have a compromised immune system?

anyone who has managed to get an infection has more than likely introduced the bacteria when and while cleaning their equipment

BINGO!!!

If you were the one who posted this, I agree.

the tap water and room air both contain bacteria
each time you open your hose to the room air you introduce some (more)
keep your filters clean and the (hose) system closed is your best bet against foreign particles
and helps to build a healthy immune system

Bottom line is, if you manage to get some ailment from your XPXP machine, you've got even bigger problems in your dwelling, the environments you otherwise visit and during the times you are NOT attached to your "flow generator".


Den

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[Lukie]

Depending on your insurance, in the US, Medicare allows a replacement hose every three months. So if you have 2 or more hoses you can wash one hose and let it dry and use your alternate hose while it is drying. I wash my complete hose system weekly and my small nasal hose that looks like an elephant trunk daily. Every month I soak the hose in Control 3 disinfectant solution along with other parts. Because bacteria, viruses and molds grow in a moist environment it is really important to wash your hoses regularly.

[Guest]

Depending on your insurance, in the US, Medicare allows a replacement hose every three months. So if you have 2 or more hoses you can wash one hose and let it dry and use your alternate hose while it is drying. I wash my complete hose system weekly and my small nasal hose that looks like an elephant trunk daily. Every month I soak the hose in Control 3 disinfectant solution along with other parts. Because bacteria, viruses and molds grow in a moist environment it is really important to wash your hoses regularly.

leaving the hose open & exposed for a week allows ample time for bacteria and other bugs to get inside after your diligent disinfecting process

[LinkC]

In my 6th year of xPap. On my 3rd hose. I don't recall ever washing any. Nothing but filtered air goes thru it. Why would I?

[Wulfman...]

Depending on your insurance, in the US, Medicare allows a replacement hose every three months. So if you have 2 or more hoses you can wash one hose and let it dry and use your alternate hose while it is drying. I wash my complete hose system weekly and my small nasal hose that looks like an elephant trunk daily. Every month I soak the hose in Control 3 disinfectant solution along with other parts. Because bacteria, viruses and molds grow in a moist environment it is really important to wash your hoses regularly.

Didn't read any of the links, did ya?

I'm coming up on nine years on the hose........and have never "cleaned" the one I've been using since I started.

Bacteria, viruses and mold can't be carried out of the humidifier with the water vapor. (if they happened to be in the HH tank in the first place)

If you have that stuff growing in your XPAP system, you've got even bigger problems in your dwelling. You're breathing that UNFILTERED air much longer than while you're sleeping.


Den

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[surf_rower]

Wow. This is the weirdest thread I ever read. You guys really don't know why someone would want to wash their hose? How about because the instructions that come with the machine say you are supposed to wash your hose?
Like the OP, I have wanted to dry my hose (the short one attached to the Tap Pap that must be rinsed daily because it has been in my mouth) so that when I first put it on and try to go to sleep, there aren't annoying drops of water tickling the edges of my nose, making it hard to fall asleep. (I don't use a humidifier.) I wash it every morning and place it near the radiator on top of a towel. The Tap Pap mouthguard could get soft and change shape if it gets too warm, though. If there is still a bit of moisture visible before bed, usually around the nasal pillows, I let air blow through it from the machine before putting it on. Just five minutes usually takes care of it.
The longer portion of my hose only gets washed about once a month, but the instructions say once a week.

[Wulfman...]

Wow. This is the weirdest thread I ever read. You guys really don't know why someone would want to wash their hose? How about because the instructions that come with the machine say you are supposed to wash your hose?
Like the OP, I have wanted to dry my hose (the short one attached to the Tap Pap that must be rinsed daily because it has been in my mouth) so that when I first put it on and try to go to sleep, there aren't annoying drops of water tickling the edges of my nose, making it hard to fall asleep. (I don't use a humidifier.) I wash it every morning and place it near the radiator on top of a towel. The Tap Pap mouthguard could get soft and change shape if it gets too warm, though. If there is still a bit of moisture visible before bed, usually around the nasal pillows, I let air blow through it from the machine before putting it on. Just five minutes usually takes care of it.
The longer portion of my hose only gets washed about once a month, but the instructions say once a week.

The manufacturers are in the business to sell "stuff". The more you clean the equipment, the more often you have to replace the "stuff".

I can get four years of use out of a set of headgear and six years out of a mask seal (and I do wash them occasionally).
As I said, my hose is nine years old and still going strong.

Let us know how many years' of use you get out of your "stuff".


Den

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[Goofproof]

stand on your front porch and whirl the hose around your head for a few minutes..

it'll dry it out AND amuse the neighborhood kids..

And drive your cat crazy, or crazier.

Science is often just a bunch of misguided fools every 5 years they reverse their thinking, but they get paid either way, because they produce nothing.

I wish they would send me some global warming tonight, its zero, going to -10 tonight. Maybe they could open the ozone layer up a little wider and let some heat in. Jim