Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

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Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by Chikorita » Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:16 pm

Hello Everyone,

I woke this morning to discover a rip/tear in my Climateline just next to the silicone connector that attaches to the hose on my mask.
Is there any way of repairing this?

Any way of avoiding it happening in the future?
I have a spare slimline hose but before I order another Climateline I'd like to understand why it happened and if I can avoid it in the future.

I've now been on CPAP for a little over a year which I am very pleased with. Perhaps this is usual wear and tear for hoses?

Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

PS I am very proud of achieving my one year CPAP anniversary. Things are going well. I have had unrelated health issues which have contributed to exhaustion (low iron) but the CPAP therapy is going well. I attribute much of mu success to the great support I have received hear and want to sincerely thank you all for being so welcoming and helpful every time I have posted. You have made my journey so much better. Thank you.

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by LSAT » Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:33 pm

Duct Tape?

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by Chikorita » Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:40 pm

Does that work? Happy to give it a go but keen to avoid leaks obviously.

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by RandyJ » Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:40 pm

The shelf life of any hose is supposed to be 6 months (for hygiene reasons - bacteria can live in those little crevices and no matter how good we might think we clean, it's not possible)... Many of us hang onto our hoses longer however, especially the heated ones like the ClimateLine since they cost so much more.

I think if you got a year out of the ClimateLine, that's great!

I replace my ClimateLine around 8-9 months and the regular white Performance hoses (when I use them) at 6 months (since at $12 or so they are cheap).

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by Chikorita » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:14 am

Thanks. That's good to know.

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:50 am

I tore my first climateline inside of a week.
The next one got vetwrap around the ends to stabilize the joint.
Vetwrap helps prevent a break, but will not repair a tear.
It also leaves a sticky mess.
I'm not likely to do it again, but it might be useful for a very restless sleeper.

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by hyperlexis » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:13 am

chunkyfrog wrote:I tore my first climateline inside of a week.
The next one got vetwrap around the ends to stabilize the joint.
Vetwrap helps prevent a break, but will not repair a tear.
It also leaves a sticky mess.
I'm not likely to do it again, but it might be useful for a very restless sleeper.
Note to ResMed engineers -- how about you guys think about installing the air outlet on the top or front, not straight out the back using a fixed outlet.

It's amazing no one ever considered this, or thought to put a full swivel joint on the outlet to relieve stress on the tubing end. PR at least puts a partial swivel joint on the outlet, and on the top of the machine, but it still doesn't allow the tube to fully swivel.

Or perhaps the engineers did consider all of this.... Great way to ensure tubes would tear within a fixed period, and only OEM heated tubes would work on the machine.

If actual users of CPAPs were allowed to design them, they would be very different than the current offerings.

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by Sheriff Buford » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:09 am

I've been using duct taped on the connectors from the git-go'. It has always worked for me, except the time I didn't use any, and I got a rip at the connection after a few months. I mentioned using duct tape a few months back and I nearly got my head bit off here... Was told it wasn't pretty . Heck, if that was the case, the wife would have never married me...

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by squid13 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:41 am

Sheriff Buford wrote: I mentioned using duct tape a few months back and I nearly got my head bit off here... Was told it wasn't pretty
You can go to WalMart and buy all kinds of pretty duct tape for those that say duct tape isn't pretty.

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by RandyJ » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:18 am

hyperlexis wrote:
Note to ResMed engineers -- how about you guys think about installing the air outlet on the top or front, not straight out the back using a fixed outlet.

It's amazing no one ever considered this, or thought to put a full swivel joint on the outlet to relieve stress on the tubing end. PR at least puts a partial swivel joint on the outlet, and on the top of the machine, but it still doesn't allow the tube to fully swivel.

Or perhaps the engineers did consider all of this.... Great way to ensure tubes would tear within a fixed period, and only OEM heated tubes would work on the machine.

If actual users of CPAPs were allowed to design them, they would be very different than the current offerings.

I have both brands (Resmed S9 and PR System One) and while I agree in theory that the rear connection on the S9 is not as practical as the top swivel on the PR System One, in 2+ years of use I have never had an issue. Never had a hose break at the connector, never pulled the machine from its spot on its rubber mat. I have the hose going from the back of the S9 and behind and over the top of the headboard on my bed.

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by hyperlexis » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:36 am

RandyJ wrote:
hyperlexis wrote:
Note to ResMed engineers -- how about you guys think about installing the air outlet on the top or front, not straight out the back using a fixed outlet.

It's amazing no one ever considered this, or thought to put a full swivel joint on the outlet to relieve stress on the tubing end. PR at least puts a partial swivel joint on the outlet, and on the top of the machine, but it still doesn't allow the tube to fully swivel.

Or perhaps the engineers did consider all of this.... Great way to ensure tubes would tear within a fixed period, and only OEM heated tubes would work on the machine.

If actual users of CPAPs were allowed to design them, they would be very different than the current offerings.

I have both brands (Resmed S9 and PR System One) and while I agree in theory that the rear connection on the S9 is not as practical as the top swivel on the PR System One, in 2+ years of use I have never had an issue. Never had a hose break at the connector, never pulled the machine from its spot on its rubber mat. I have the hose going from the back of the S9 and behind and over the top of the headboard on my bed.
That's great -- but by its very nature the S9 series machine locks the tube in place, in one position, and pretty much requires a sharp, upward bend during use, unless you turn the machine sideways or backwards each night or rig some other contraption to relieve strain on the tubing. The OP got a year before that joint at the tube, due to the stress placed on the plastic, failed. That's the weakest point in the tubing -- where the greatest strain is placed. A top connection with a swivel would serve as a strain relief and be very beneficial. Hopefully the next version will include the feature.

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by RandyJ » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:17 pm

hyperlexis wrote: That's great -- but by its very nature the S9 series machine locks the tube in place, in one position, and pretty much requires a sharp, upward bend during use, unless you turn the machine sideways or backwards each night or rig some other contraption to relieve strain on the tubing. The OP got a year before that joint at the tube, due to the stress placed on the plastic, failed. That's the weakest point in the tubing -- where the greatest strain is placed. A top connection with a swivel would serve as a strain relief and be very beneficial. Hopefully the next version will include the feature.

In my case I think that there is enough slack in my tube that it never pulls on the machine. It's true that where the tube attaches it bends to the right and toward my bed, but I must never get more than 3 feet from the machine, so it doesn't pull or require a sharp, upward bend, since my machine is at the same level as my pillow.

I agree that the PR System One is a better design.

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by Chikorita » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:05 pm

The year was not at the machine end but the connector from the hose to my mask hose. So the part that I keep under the covers in my bed. Does that change this discussion.

Re duct tape: Does it create a good enough seal? And what is vetwrap please? I'm in Australia so it may be called something different. I will certainly be stabilizing the joint of the replacement tube so this doesn't happen again. Climateline is too expensive to be replacing frequently.

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by squid13 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:17 pm

Chikorita wrote:what is vetwrap please?
If you ever had blood draw or gave blood it's that wrap the put on you arm that sticks to itself. You can buy it at WalMart and I wrap both ends of my climate line. http://www.amazon.com/Gifted-Horse-Vet- ... B0000B3BV4

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Re: Torn/ripped slicone connector on Climateline hose

Post by DJL » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:33 pm

About nine inches from the hose connection to the humidifier, I use a length of ribbon and wrap it around the hose and tie it to the bed head frame. I hope that this takes some weight off the hose end connection.

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