ResMed Climateline Tubing

[bradleyjoe]

I have order my new cpap today S9 with ClimateLine tube. My question is will it be ok to put a tube cover on that tupe sence it is heated. Brad

[RandyJ]

You are not supposed to, but some people do. I've never put a cover, and have never needed to.

[hyperlexis]

I wouldn't do it. It would likely do nothing dangerous, as it has thermostats to measure the temp. Possibly shorten the life of the tubing? But honestly, why would you even do so? It would be a complete waste of money to add on a cozy. The whole point of the heated tube is to stop condensation, and the heated tubes do so, quite well, without need for an added cozy.

[Pugsy]

See this link
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... -wrap.html

ResMed indicates this tube wrapping can be used with both the SlimLine and ClimateLine tubing. However, the ClimateLine tubing is longer than the SlimLine tubing by about 7 inches. This tube wrapping fits the SlimLine from end to end. If you use this tube wrapping with the ClimateLine tubing it will not completely cover the length of the tubing.

I have it and it works fine, no problems. There are other forum members who use other hose cozies with their Climateline hose and aren't having any problems.

[chunkyfrog]

I recently bought the Resmed cover for Slimline tubing.
Even the packaging indicates it is all right to use on the Climateline--although it's a half foot short.

[Pugsy]

The slightly shorter ResMed cozy...not really a big deal. I just have a little gap at the humidifier outlet. It isn't a deal breaker by any means.

[bosstow]

I wouldn't do it. It would likely do nothing dangerous, as it has thermostats to measure the temp. Possibly shorten the life of the tubing? But honestly, why would you even do so? It would be a complete waste of money to add on a cozy. The whole point of the heated tube is to stop condensation, and the heated tubes do so, quite well, without need for an added cozy.

I've been using with a Pad A Cheek cover on my ClimateLine for about 8 months, and it is a thick 3-layered cover with soft microfleece fabric on the outer layer. No problems, no rain out, no damaged hose.

Reasons for using covers:
Comfort - for those of us that prefer NOT to hang/suspend the hose overhead, and don't like the feeling of the plastic tubing.
Quiet - It doesn't make noise hitting the headboard, etc
Protection - less likely to get damaged when the hose gets moved around a lot

The cover is pretty much a comfort decison for me. I asked Karen to custom make it narrower for the 15mm tubing size. Also, it's long enough to cover the ClimateLine's 78" tubing length vs the standard 72" length. The Pad A Cheek cover costs more than some others but it is also VERY well made and worth it to me.

[hyperlexis]

I wouldn't do it. It would likely do nothing dangerous, as it has thermostats to measure the temp. Possibly shorten the life of the tubing? But honestly, why would you even do so? It would be a complete waste of money to add on a cozy. The whole point of the heated tube is to stop condensation, and the heated tubes do so, quite well, without need for an added cozy.

I've been using with a Pad A Cheek cover on my ClimateLine for about 8 months, and it is a thick 3-layered cover with soft microfleece fabric on the outer layer. No problems, no rain out, no damaged hose.

Reasons for using covers:
Comfort - for those of us that prefer NOT to hang/suspend the hose overhead, and don't like the feeling of the plastic tubing.
Quiet - It doesn't make noise hitting the headboard, etc
Protection - less likely to get damaged when the hose gets moved around a lot

The cover is pretty much a comfort decison for me. I asked Karen to custom make it narrower for the 15mm tubing size. Also, it's long enough to cover the ClimateLine's 78" tubing length vs the standard 72" length. The Pad A Cheek cover costs more than some others but it is also VERY well made and worth it to me.

Well not to throw around cozy brand names here....

But does ResMed say it is OK to use a hose cozy with the climateline tubing turned on? Yes, I suppose you could use a cozy on heated tubing if you used the tubing turned off, but does it say directly it is ok to use it with heated tubing turned on?

[bosstow]

but does it say directly it is ok to use it with heated tubing turned on?

ResMed says that their cover (which Pugsy linked to above) is ok to use on Climateline tubing. Common sense tells me that they wouldn't make that statement if one had to disable the climate control feature.

I've had zero problems with using my "non-ResMed-endorsed" hose cover

The Climateline is not designed to use enough current/power to get "hot" in the first place. And the temp sensor on the mask end of the tubing tells the system when the air is warm enough...when it is...it shuts off the current/element.

Think about it, if it was not safe to "cover" the Climateline hose, would they really put out a product that people are going to use around pillows, sheets, blankets, down comforters, warm bodies, and all sorts of varying ambient room temperatures?

[sol]

But does ResMed say it is OK to use a hose cozy with the climateline tubing turned on?

I cannot find any reference directly from Resmed
Fisher and Paykel recommend to keep the (heated breathing) tube on top of bedding for the best humidity performance (3.4)
http://www.fphcare.com/CMSPages/GetFile ... 12586a6cd7

[Denial Dave]

I've had a snuggle hose fleece cover on my climate line hose for 3 months.... no issues..

humidity set at 4.0 & temp = 80 degrees

About once a week, I pull the cover off and wash it in the regular laundry with a little fabric softner.

Dave

[bradleyjoe]

Thank you all for your responses it will give me a lot to think about. Brad

[squid13]

I'll just add that I've had a Pad A Cheek cover on my climate line for over a year and a half and there is no problem.

[hyperlexis]

but does it say directly it is ok to use it with heated tubing turned on?

ResMed says that their cover (which Pugsy linked to above) is ok to use on Climateline tubing. Common sense tells me that they wouldn't make that statement if one had to disable the climate control feature.

I've had zero problems with using my "non-ResMed-endorsed" hose cover

The Climateline is not designed to use enough current/power to get "hot" in the first place. And the temp sensor on the mask end of the tubing tells the system when the air is warm enough...when it is...it shuts off the current/element.

Think about it, if it was not safe to "cover" the Climateline hose, would they really put out a product that people are going to use around pillows, sheets, blankets, down comforters, warm bodies, and all sorts of varying ambient room temperatures?

Well ResMed is from Australia, and things work in reverse there, like Christmas in summer, and water draining counterclockwise. And the platypus.

This is what actually will happen to people if they put a cozy on their Resmed heated climateline tubing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoYlCkHdNlU

[Pugsy]

I had a stand alone heated hose...the Hybernite 2300.
The instructions that came with it stated "no hose covers"...so of course I had to check it out.
It got the air way too warm for comfort. Even routing the hose under the covers generated too much warmth.

There is another stand alone heated hose...the Aussie hose. It actually comes with a hose cover...so it's obviously safe to use.

I now have the Climateline hose. I have not tried my Padacheeks hose cozy to see if it gets too warm but others have and not had any issues.

The hose cover I linked to above that ResMed offers is rather thin. Not soft, not fleecy at all and really offers minimal to none insulation ability IMHO. Mainly it is just a cover and as someone said once...feels sort of like a snake.

Stand alone heated hoses don't offer adjustable humidity...they are simply on or off. I can sure see where these may produce too much warmth with a hose cover..though the Aussie doesn't or it wouldn't be supplied with a hose cover. Too much warmth may simply be a comfort thing...may not come anywhere near flammable state. I don't know.

Now there are people who know how to rig rheostat controls and/or do their own heated hose with the reptile heater cable and a rheostat...I know nothing at all about rheostats and their use. So I won't go there.
The Climateline uses sensors in the hose to determine temperature...maybe the use of the covers (and the no issues reported) helps maintain the set temperate and thus less heat is needed to be produced from the tube coils to maintain the temp selected.
The Climateline must have some sort of rheostat heat control sensor in the hose or it would not be able to offer variable temperatures.

If someone is afraid of using a hose cover on the Climateline..then just don't use one. No one is forcing anyone to do anything.
I know enough people using various hose covers including the Padacheek hose cozy which is very fleecy and dense...without issues that I myself wouldn't be afraid to use it. Just my personal thoughts on the issue.

Has anyone ever read something from ResMed that says anything about the use of a hose cover on the Climateline hose?
I see lots of discussion about it but nothing from ResMed. Anyone ever call them and ask?
The market literature that cpap.com offers with their ResMed cozy stating it can be used on the climateline is pretty much standard press release type of wording that all the online suppliers have in their description so I assume it came from ResMed.