OT: Tragic Shooting.

[TheUglyTruth]

The lack of eye witnesses of the shooter confirming the single shooter account is BLARINGLY absent. The reports of a second shooter in the woods has suddenly disappeared. The reporters are not grilling the one and only witness we know of- this little boy. Please don’t say they suddenly have even a smidge of conscience. The original statements about the shooter being buzzed into the school have simply disappeared. I was ready to let this go and explain it away as simple confusion. I was maddened by the timing and circumstances of the tragedy as concerns the upcoming UN small arms treaty & gun control. It killed me that this wack-job used LEGALLY REGISTERED weapons to do his killing. There is NO OTHER CONCLUSION, if the story is accurate, than the fact that had Adam Lanza NOT had access to those legal guns, he could never have killed those kids. He was too mentally ill to have gotten those weapons himself. He was diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome and we now know that he had many, many interventions by school officials in the past. I felt that the killing of little children would be the strongest argument yet that we should clamp down on gun ownership. I just couldn’t believe the TIMING and circumstances of this event- a GIFT to the Progressives to disarm us. Who can argue with this case? I was ready for the inevitable.

Friends. I believe there is evidence of more than one shooter. I believe this was a PLANNED event- specifically to get the UN Small Arms Treaty signed. The father of the shooter is Peter Lanza, rumored to be scheduled to testify on the international LIBOR scandal. Guess who else is rumored to be scheduled to testify on the LIBOR scandal? Father of the BATMAN theater shooter. Amazing coincidence? We will see. The LIBOR scandal is a massive, worldwide network of banks, the Federal Reserve and highly position individuals such as Tim Geihtner and Ben Bernanke that are being accused of manipulating LIBOR rates to gain better market positions. Just some of the Banks involved are: the Canadian branches of the Royal Bank of Scotland, HSBC, Deutsche Bank, JP Morgan Bank, and Citibank, as well as ICAP (Intercapital), an interdealer broker.[37 It also mentions Bank of America & Barclays. It is ugly to its roots and VERY powerful people are involved.

I believe our GOVERNMENT shot those kids and teachers and used Adam Lanza and his family to pull it off. They might have killed two birds with one stone. One: If these men are involved in the LIBOR scandal, they can manipulate their testimony. Two: they get gun control. How very, very clever and efficient of them, right?

http://shortlittlerebel.wordpress.com/2 ... -shooting/

[jnk]

Nothing more than my opinions:

I truly and sincerely do not have the right to be upset.

I think you do.

. . . a caste system, creating a conversational barrier that cannot be crossed.

All conversation is about attempting to cross barriers. Caste systems are there to be acknowledged then ignored, when attempting to do good. And most attempts to cross those barriers are as laudable as actually crossing them.

Do people forget that fast? Is that good or bad?

Yes and no, depending on one's definition of "forget." Maybe both good and bad in combination, depending on what is practical yet respectful.

WTC, Pearl Harbor, Dachau, Omaha Beach, Gettysburg... so long ago, so far away...

And yet so close, albeit in the distorted forms of individual memory, collective memory, and historical memory.

Horrific.

Yes. But likely still worthy of being talked about with the people one can trust, even if one has no personal desire to heal and many around one seem incapable of hearing.

Then again, I probably have no idea what I'm talking about.

Just sayin'.

[kaiasgram]

I truly and sincerely do not have the right to be upset.

I think you do.

I think so too -- you can't have a mind, a heart and a soul and not be hurting about this.

[SMenasco]

Seems to me that this tragedy could have been avoided, or perhaps lessened, if the school had video cameras covering all the exterior of the building, monitored by at least one armed guard. The killer may have been slowed or taken out before he was able to enter the building, especially since he apparently had to shoot out a glass to gain access. Also, if he had known the school had cameras and armed security, he might have not gone through with this. So, I am an advocate of equipping every school in the country with cameras and armed security personnel. With as much money as the government wastes, we can certainly afford to protect our kids. Just look at what is spent by the TSA.

[JohnBFisher]

Great! All we need is more guns around children:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_chil ... _accidents

[lazer]

Seems to me that this tragedy could have been avoided, or perhaps lessened, if the school had video cameras covering all the exterior of the building, monitored by at least one armed guard. The killer may have been slowed or taken out before he was able to enter the building, especially since he apparently had to shoot out a glass to gain access. Also, if he had known the school had cameras and armed security, he might have not gone through with this. So, I am an advocate of equipping every school in the country with cameras and armed security personnel. With as much money as the government wastes, we can certainly afford to protect our kids. Just look at what is spent by the TSA.

I strongly agree with this approach and happens to be something of the sorts of what the NRA spoke up for today even offering to sponsor & fund it.

[ChicagoGranny]

[SMenasco]

I wish there had been an armed guard in Sandy Hook. It's possible that this disturbed person might have been neutralized before he had a chance to enter the building. I am of the opinion that the loved ones wish that as well.

[Vader]

I wish there had been an armed guard in Sandy Hook. It's possible that this disturbed person might have been neutralized before he had a chance to enter the building. I am of the opinion that the loved ones wish that as well.

I agree.
I think that no citizen is allowed to legally enter a school building with a gun, even if they have a permit.
If schools had a policeman/armed guard on duty, these children might have been saved.

[PST]

Seems to me that this tragedy could have been avoided, or perhaps lessened, if the school had video cameras covering all the exterior of the building, monitored by at least one armed guard. The killer may have been slowed or taken out before he was able to enter the building, especially since he apparently had to shoot out a glass to gain access. Also, if he had known the school had cameras and armed security, he might have not gone through with this. So, I am an advocate of equipping every school in the country with cameras and armed security personnel. With as much money as the government wastes, we can certainly afford to protect our kids. Just look at what is spent by the TSA.

There was an armed sheriff's deputy on duty at the time of the Columbine shooting who exchanged fire more than once with Eric Harris, so we know that having an armed guard in every school is no guaranty against a massacre. There were also university police forces on campuses where shootings took place. These events are fast and confusing, and completely unexpected except to the shooter, so much can happen before any response is possible, and a guard known to the shooters may just end up being the first victim. More frightening is the thought of authorizing guards to "take out" anyone approaching the school who appears based on a video camera to pose a danger. Suppose one guard in a thousand makes a mistake once a year: we have about 130,000 schools in this country. That's a lot of accidental shootings. Moreover, with that number of schools, my back-of-the-envelop calculation is that adding one guard for each would be a $5 to $10 billion a year effort. (I used rates for hiring security contractors than hourly wage rates, since these presumably include insurance, sick leave, vacation, taxes, and all the other extra costs for an employee.) This is just for security guards, not police officers, who would be more expensive. You can say that it's worth the price, but for the last four years we've been dropping tens of thousands of law enforcement officers in the states and localities for budgetary reasons, officers who could have been serving locations with far more likelihood of violence than most schools. School shootings represent not only a minuscule percentage of murders as a whole, but a small percentage of murders of children.

[chunkyfrog]

Universal mental health care, really CARE; not "Here's a pill-- take it or get locked up!"

[SMenasco]

Okay, it would cost a lot of money. No. it doesn't happen very often. Yes, an accident is possible. So what do we do?

[ChicagoGranny]

Okay, it would cost a lot of money.

Two-thirds of public schools in the U.S. already have armed policemen full time.

[deltadave]

So what do we do?

We stop the hate.

BTW, how many armed guards were there at the Murrah Building?

[deltadave]

Or for that matter, at Logan?