Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

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Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by rcs914 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:22 pm

Hi All -

So I am coming up on a week of the S9 Autoset - my wife told me yesterday that the previous night she had woken up, and she heard me snoring lightly with my mask on. I do not know how much or for how long though. That morning though my AHI had been .5! I find this a bit confusing, and it made me wonder how these machines detect apnea's in the first place, which I haven't done much research into.

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Chris

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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by BlackSpinner » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:09 pm

You need to up your pressure. For many people snoring is an apnea wannabe.

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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by sleeptimeinNY » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:30 pm

Do you have the sleepyhead program to check out your snores?
Maybe they weren't that bad.

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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by rcs914 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:14 pm

I have not installed Sleepyhead or pulled the data card to check it out yet. My pressure is set to a range of 9 - 16.6, so it should be changing this automatically I would think. And who knows, it could have upped my pressure after it.

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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by britinjapan » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:13 pm

Sleepyheads will help you analyze snoring, AHI, pressure and put you at ease how your machine is responding.

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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by apsews » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:16 pm

I have been having the same thing. My AHI is under 5 and have a high snore according to EncoreBasic. I go back for my follow up in 2 weeks,we will see what he says and I will update here.
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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by avi123 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:45 pm

Chris, in my case I need a pressure of above 10 cm on my APAP to take care of my Snoring, Flow Limitations, and most of my Obstructive Apneas. My mask and chinstrap also help by eliminating mouth leaks. See my results here:

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Checking for Respirations' arousals, the wave spike in the center of the window seems to be an arousal which did not wake me up.

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p.s. I could show you the results in SleepyHeads but IMO that software is full of bugs. A poster who uses a Resmed machine and show results in SleepyHeads, imo, is silly.

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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by rcs914 » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:05 am

I thought that I had read that the newest beta of Sleepyhead had fixed some of the issues with it - I had grabbed it last night to pull the first weeks worth of data off of the card, since I didn't have a copy of the ResScan software. Without more research, trying to figure it out is a bit daunting

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Post by Pugsy » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:37 am

Avi makes out like SleepyHead is total crap software but it isn't.
ResScan isn't perfect either.
I have yet to find any software any where that is totally perfect. They can all have bugs.

If you want ResScan send me a private message and I will get you the latest version. It's a huge, bloated, slower than a 3 legged turtle software that has its own short comings. I have it and I often compare the data results between it and SleepyHead and other than some 95% numbers being off a little bit...every other bit of data seems spot on.

You can use which ever software you are most comfortable with. Heck, use both....but when I go to download my data SleepyHead is my first choice. I can get my data totally from SH before ResScan even opens to the point I can do anything.

The presence of a bit of light "snoring" may not mean much...need to see just how much snoring is going on.
Your wife may have just happened to catch a wee bit of snoring...might not even be present the whole night.
Might not be worth worrying about. Need to see how much and how long before we start worrying about things.
I wouldn't go changing anything until I knew for sure what I was trying to fix and see if it for sure needed fixing.

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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by avi123 » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:11 pm

rcs914 wrote:I thought that I had read that the newest beta of Sleepyhead had fixed some of the issues with it - I had grabbed it last night to pull the first weeks worth of data off of the card, since I didn't have a copy of the ResScan software. Without more research, trying to figure it out is a bit daunting
Reply,

Since you're using S9 Autoset, it pays to spend the time to learn using ResScan. You could use the links next to my signature line to download the 3.16 version of ResScan and practice with the Video Tutorial link next to it. The ResScan was developed and is maintained by the reputable Resmed company. The SleepyHead was written by an individual who knows very little about math and statistics. Also, if you want to improve your treatment I would not pay attention to posters remarks who don't use the S9 Autoset specifically. There are too many false experts on this board. Just ask to see their own results with graphs from their S9 Autosets. This machine is unique in its operation.

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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by Pugsy » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:26 pm

avi123 wrote:SleepyHead was written by an individual who knows very little about math and statistics. Also, if you want to improve your treatment I would not pay attention to posters remarks who don't use the S9 Autoset specifically. There are too many false experts on this board. Just ask to see their own results with graphs from their S9 Autosets.
Totally uncalled for response.
1. You have no idea what the developer of SleepyHead does or does not know about anything. Tacky nasty comment but doesn't surprise me considering the source..
2. Your bias against SleepyHead is totally uncalled for and is blatantly one sided prejudice. Don't use it if you don't like it but shut up about it. It's Beta software..plainly says BETA software on it. Is it perfect? NO...but it is BETA software...do you know what BETA software is?
3. Your "false experts" thing is really getting annoying. I am thinking of going back to your old posts and digging up some of the crap that you said about APAPs before you ever got one...I remember all those scare monger things you said and what do you do...you go and buy one yourself out of your own pocket.

Common sense is common sense no matter which machine or software someone uses. Something that seems to fly right over your head. Go take another grumpy old man pill.

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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by lazer » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:24 am

BlackSpinner wrote:You need to up your pressure. For many people snoring is an apnea wannabe.
Agree but that's where my dilemma comes in. I run APAP at 8.5 - 20 and it definitely reacts to the snores by increasing the pressure BUT then leaks become an issue.

PS: And AVI, you're a dick in regards to your comment about Sleepyhead and it's programmer.

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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by nanwilson » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:44 am

lazer wrote:
BlackSpinner wrote:You need to up your pressure. For many people snoring is an apnea wannabe.
Agree but that's where my dilemma comes in. I run APAP at 8.5 - 20 and it definitely reacts to the snores by increasing the pressure BUT then leaks become an issue.

PS: And AVI, you're a dick in regards to your comment about Sleepyhead and it's programmer.
Lazer
I'll bet Avi does not know what a dick is. He believes that what he says is gospel, what anyone else says is shinola (was going to use the other word...but thought...not nice)
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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by Taringa542 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:49 am

lazer wrote:
BlackSpinner wrote:You need to up your pressure. For many people snoring is an apnea wannabe.
Agree but that's where my dilemma comes in. I run APAP at 8.5 - 20 and it definitely reacts to the snores by increasing the pressure BUT then leaks become an issue.

PS: And AVI, you're a dick in regards to your comment about Sleepyhead and it's programmer.
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Re: Snoring with the mask on, and a low AHI?

Post by Heavylids » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:51 pm

A friend of mine who is a PA and works in sleep medine described to me basically how the ResMed machines detect obstructions. I know I'm probably oversimplifying this.

Ever notice while your awake in between breaths sometimes you can feel little puffs of air on your lips (or maybe in your nose if your on a nasal mask)? The puffs of air travel down your airway much like a soundwave and if they run into an obstruction the machine can detect the rerturn wave from the obstruction and then I assume increase pressuse until the obstruction no longer exists. If there is no obstruction the puff of air simply travels into your lungs and dissapates. Hope I got it close