Up & Coming Treatment for OSA

snork1 · Post by **snork1** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:14 am

I am also intrigued by the magnet repulsion idea. In principal it might have some merit.

Lets see, where is that Crazy Glue and a couple of magnets off a sonicare toothbrush?

Dar wu go? huh? so fa su good! Gotta tru it slupping. And avoid uron rich foods.......

Seriously....with the tiny powerful rare earth magnets that are available now, it may not be all that farfetched and maybe similar to the pillar procedure in reverseability/

I might let someone else lab rat THAT one though....

Darth Vader Look · Post by **Darth Vader Look** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:42 am

My understanding of the electrical stimulation procedure is that it is similar to the EMS (electrical muscle stimulation) treatments someone would get at a physio therapy clinic but done with a machine while you sleep. Here are sites where they don't think it is conducive to sleep apnea:

http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content ... t/107/1/67

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Citation

Guess they still have the 15 years I first mentioned to get it right.

Barb (Seattle) · Post by **Barb (Seattle)** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:54 am

Guess they still have the 15 years I first mentioned to get it right.

Not according to the letter I received back..I e-mailed about it.

Might be just a very few years *crosses fingers*

Barb (Seattle) · Post by **Barb (Seattle)** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:59 am

That study is from 1995, maybe they have different technology now? Hope so!

Sleeping With The Enemy · Post by **Sleeping With The Enemy** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:06 pm

Barb,

I think pessimistic thinking and OSA go hand in hand. These people don't want to hear about a cure. I'm excited about a cure and there are others, but some just can't see it!

If there was a cure then what would they chat about?

Barb (Seattle) · Post by **Barb (Seattle)** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:34 pm

If there was a cure then what would they chat about?

Not to mention, the MONEY they wouldn't make on masks! I've had about ten in the 8 1/2 years I've struggled for a solution...if not more, I lost track I'm not sure they want a cure either. A lot of jobs would be lost.

Meanwhile, i sleep without the machine...trusting that my body will wake me up in the night when I'm not breathing. I take naps (about 10 minutes, as the apnea wakes me up). Oh well...we have to do what we have to do...

Magneto Apnea Man · Post by **Magneto Apnea Man** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:32 am

I am also intrigued by the magnet repulsion idea. In principal it might have some merit.

I for one find this magnetic idea utterly repulsive...

Just kidding!

Sleeping With The Enemy · Post by **Sleeping With The Enemy** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:54 pm

Its the same with Diabetes. My 10 year old son has Type 1 Diabetes.

The American Diabetes Association sends us mail all the time asking for donations to "help find a cure".

ITS A BUNCH OF CRAP!! No one wants a cure for this kind of stuff, there is too much money in the treatment and they don't want to lose that....

Janelle · Post by **Janelle** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:37 am

It appears to me that this implant would only help in those cases where the tongue actually falls back into the throat. What about those with Upper Respiratory Obstruction? Won't work then. Also doubt that most side sleepers have a problem with the tongue falling back.

Like many other procedures, it seems to be a "cure" for some but not for others.

Don't throw away your CPAP or APAP just yet, folks.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:18 am

All I have head is the tongue base and palate for the obstruction factors. I was told that there is no "fire hose" that will collapse in the throat. I would think that any obstruction factor in the sinus we just mouth breath. Does anyone else found other factors that would cause OSA?

Janelle · Post by **Janelle** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:00 am

Anything that obstructs the airway either upper or lower can cause Sleep Apnea. This includes nasal polyps, deviated septum, floppy soft palate as the result of snoring vibration, enlarged tonsils from the irritation of smoking, enlarged uvula, small oral opening (hereditary), turbinate problems.

The use of xPap will relieve snoring and thus enable the soft palate to regain its normal tension. Stopping smoking will help the tonsils regain normal size and probably the uvula too, although some people have a naturally longer uvula than usual. Polyps in the nasal cavity can be removed, turbinates crushed, deviated septums repaired. But without a complete exam by an Ear Nose and Throat Dr. you won't even know if you have these problems. Nasal congestion will result in mouth breathing and thus in snoring. Use of a nasal steroid spray will alleviate that.

Sleeping With The Enemy · Post by **Sleeping With The Enemy** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:15 pm

I went to ENT this morning. On February 1st, I'm having a tonsillectomy and 2/3 of my uvula clipped. My tonsils/uvula are huge. I don't smoke.

I have shown many people and they can't believe how big my tonsils/uvula are, so out they go!

I have had tonsillitis/uvulitis so many times, I can't stand it.

I have also recently dropped from 221 to 202 (weighed in this morning)!!

Heidi

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:17 am

Sleeping With The Enemy

Since you have repeated tonsillitis infections it does make s sense for you to remove the Tonsils. I had my Adenoids removed three times, they were growing back when I was very young and later my Tonsils. Good luck

Janelle · Post by **Janelle** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:13 am

Even if you are exposed to second hand smoke it will affect your tonsils, or if you have chronic allergies or sinusitis. If you have allergies, get those treated/tested. Sinusitis is often due to allergiees too. I used to get really bad colds every 6 weeks like clockwork which went into bronchitis within a day or two and had to be treated with antibiotics. My GP recognized this was due to allergies, even though I never had any itching, sneezing or other associated problems. After getting rid of the bronchitis by several types of antibiotics one after the other, bronchial inhalers and injections of allergy shots based on what I was allergic too, I am practically now cold free.

Janelle · Post by **Janelle** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:17 am

Tonsilectomies on an adult are a very serious operation. Did your ENT tell you about the two weeks of extreme pain and liquid diets and the fact that you will most definitely lose 10 pounds of weight because of it, and that there is evidence to suggest that in about two years all the effects of the surgery will be nil? You will even have to swallow a local pain killer to be even able to take liquid nourishment.

I would ask the ENT if there is some other treatment to reduce the tonsils, like long term antibiotic treatment. Also see an allergist to see if the enlarged tonsils are due to allergies and get the antigen injections. Lot less painful, long term effects are better, too.