SleepTracker Pro Short Review

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SleepTracker Pro Short Review

Post by ca_hosehead » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:22 am

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The SleepTracker is an interesting little gadget. It's primary function is to wake you up in the morning. It looks and fits like a big watch. It contains a component called an accelerometer. It knows when your hand moves.

Any easy way to tell how deeply a person is asleep is by how much they move. A person who is awake or nearly awake moves quite a bit. A person who is deeply asleep does not move at all.

By keeping up with how often your hand moves, the SleepTracker is able to determine "near awake" moments -- moments when you are only lightly asleep.

Let's say you normally get up at 8:00 AM. You set the SleepTracker for an alarm time of 8:00 AM and for a "window" of 45 minutes. It will start looking for a near awake moment at 7:15. As soon as it finds one, it will start buzzing. (If you don't have a near-awake moment before 8 then the buzzer just goes off at 8.)

The theory is that it will pick a moment when you are closest to being awake, allowing you to be more refreshed when you wake up.

Oddly enough, it seems to work. It consistently picks good moments to wake me up.

Now if you are having some trouble sleeping from something like say, sleep apnea, then you might not have a near awake moment during the window and the buzzing on your hard might not be enough. Keep a backup alarm set if you have an important meeting, but I think you'll be surprised at just how well thing works.

Now I'll admit my little secret. I didn't buy it to wake me up. I bought to find out more about my sleep patterns.

If you look at this page you can see an illustration of sleep cycles through the night:

http://www.sleeptracker.com/how-it-works.html

In using the watch it's important to understand a little about sleep cycles so you know what you are looking for.

At one point I had a dilemma. My AHI was under 5 but I still felt like hell. So I needed an answer to an important question. Did I feel like hell because I was sleeping poorly or was it the dreaded "something else"? I mean if it's not a sleep problem then it could be anything - blood sugar, lyme disease, beri-beri, primary myofractral cardyitis -- all maladies that I didn't have an Internet support board for.

The SleepTracker Pro keeps track of the near-awake moments for the entire night and lets you review them in the morning. You can do it on the display of the watch or download it to the computer.

I thought that I could track the time between the near-awake moments as get a sense of how I was sleeping. A short duration between near awake moments would mean fitful, disturbed sleep. Long intervals would mean good sleep.

It answered my question very well. If I felt good in the AM then what I saw on the watch was several long quiet intervals in the early part of the night. If the intervals were all mostly short (30 minutes or so) then I felt like hell.

And once I got an oximeter, things got really interesting. I marked the near-awake moments on the heart rate graph. This let me begin to see the sleep cycles in the heart rate data. By bringing in breathing events from the PAP machine reports I could then see the apnea events wreck my sleep patterns.

I'm still learning, but it is very interesting. If you are a "sleep tweak" then you'll like this gadget.

I wouldn't run right out and get this thing unless you had some other things first. Get a data-capable machine and a mask that works for you. Get an oximeter. And a video camera is very useful as well. If you still have some pennies left over, then pick up one of these.

There are two models. The more expensive SleepTracker Pro ($179) collects 12 hours of sleep data and lets you download the data to your PC. It has a vibrating alarm. This is the one I got. It is well made and works as advertised.

The cheaper model ($149) records 8 hours only and you have to review it on the watch. It has only a beeping alarm. I can't speak for how well this one works.

Manufacturer's web site:
http://www.sleeptracker.com/

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Re: SleepTracker Pro Short Review

Post by Slinky » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:01 am

Excellent review, hosehead. Thank you.

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Re: SleepTracker Pro Short Review

Post by chipbutty » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:40 am

I bought one of these six months ago. I like it, though it hasn't shed any light on why I'm continually shattered even though my cpap treatment is effective. Hopefully another forthcoming sleep study will help in that regards.

What typical awake times (Data A) do you get? From what I can gather it can vary greatly for each individual and there's no 'normal' gap between awake moments.

I like it. The Sleep Tracker software doesn't work very well on the Mac via Virtual PC. It would be good if the next model had some on board memory so it could keep say a weeks worth of data.

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Re: SleepTracker Pro Short Review

Post by ca_hosehead » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:21 am

For those not familiar, the watch provides a figure labeled "Data A" (Data Average) that is the average length of all the quiet periods through the night.

I haven't found this number to be particularly useful. What I look at is the length of the quiet periods from longest to shortest.

If it looks like this:

120 mins
115 mins
90 mins
90 mins
65 mins
(all others less than that)

Then this is a good night. Lots of long quiet periods indicating uninterrupted sleep cycles. Normal sleep cycles are 90 to 120 minutes (this can vary). Part of any sleep cycle is spent in a "near awake" state so the length of the quiet period won't be as long as the sleep cycle itself, but it should be long, like an hour.

Numbers that look like this:

45 mins
32 mins
28 mins
20 mins
19 mins
(all others less than that)

indicate fragmented sleep. I'll fell like hell with numbers like that.

I think the algorithm would work better if it added together the total of all quiet periods of 60 minutes or more.

When I see a lot of long quiet periods I'll feel pretty good.

Also the watch starts recording at the time that you set as the "to bed" time and stops recording at the time you set as your wakeup time (or when the alarm goes off). My sleep time varies somewhat so I tend to set these times for a longer period than I actually sleep. This means the watch will spend some "quiet time" on the nightstand each night.

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Re: SleepTracker Pro Short Review

Post by chipbutty » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:21 am

Interesting, I tend to go on the Data A score. My quiet periods last night:

115 mins
75 mins
60 mins
all others less than that

I was conscious of fully waking several times last night and again at 5am with leaks so maybe that didn't help things. Took me an hour to get back to sleep.

Like you I bought the watch to keep track of my sleep patterns. I've no idea if it's any good for its intended purpose! It will be interesting to see if they develop this technology further, though I'm not sure they can do anything more sophisticated with just motion sensors. I'd like to to see the next model have retractable wires that you pull out of the watch and stick to your scalp to measure brainwaves Maybe one day.

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Re: SleepTracker Pro Short Review

Post by ca_hosehead » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:03 pm

I would like more detail, it would unable deeper analysis.

There is also this one:

http://www.theactigraph.com/

This is similar to the Actiwatch, a motion based activity monitor that is commonly used by sleep researchers. I wore one in a sleep study one time.

Looks like they've targeted this more at the fitness market but they do seem to have some sort of sleep monitoring available.

I thought that it was too costly for what you got. $450 to start and to use the product at all requires a yearly "subscription" to the web-based software. Not sure of the cost on this but I think it was about $100 a year (ouch!).

I also was unable to get the demos of the sleep software to work.

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Re: SleepTracker Pro Short Review

Post by chipbutty » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:17 pm

Certainly a step up from the Sleeptracker. It can only be a matter of time before we start seeing more of these devices now there's so much more media attention on sleep problems. That can only be a good thing for those of us with sleep related issues.

I did a bit of googling and was directed straight back to cpaptalk. I don't know if you saw this post. Very interesting but I think I'd need to win the lottery.

viewtopic/t34424/Itamar-Medical-WatchPAT-100.html

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Re: SleepTracker Pro Short Review

Post by chipbutty » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:26 pm

I'm getting a bit off topic with regards to the SleepTracker but I noticed this device on a site I regularly visit here in the UK.

No doubt costs an absolute fortune and the rental is the cost of a CPAP machine!

http://www.eu-pap.co.uk/multichannel-sl ... -o-47.html

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Re: SleepTracker Pro Short Review

Post by Snoredog » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:59 pm

nice review but I think your money is better spent on the Pulse Oximeter, you can't really do much to change your sleep staging.
someday science will catch up to what I'm saying...

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Re: SleepTracker Pro Short Review

Post by ca_hosehead » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:44 am

nice review but I think your money is better spent on the Pulse Oximeter, you can't really do much to change your sleep staging.
No disagreement there. I would put a data capable machine with a good mask first, followed by pulse oximeter.