silent nite

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snorefore
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silent nite

Post by snorefore » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:10 am

My dentist (a good friend of mine) was telling me about a product called: "silent nite" after I was explaining to him about my "mouth breathing" while using my RemStar M Series Pro machine. He said that this dental device WILL NOT heal my apnea however it will prevent my mouth from openning during the night.

Do any of you have any experience in using this customized mouth piece and it's impact on the mouth breathing condition as well as any side effects?
Thanks to all of you, in advance, who will take time to read and respond to this post,

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Marietjie
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Re: silent nite

Post by Marietjie » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:24 am

Hi - Go to : meister "Mouth Drop" posted Jan 21,2005 re: Silent Nite
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Re: silent nite

Post by rested gal » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:20 pm

The post Marietjie (good memory, Mar!! ) mentioned is here:

viewtopic/t36170/viewtopic.php?p=71999#p71999
ResMed S9 VPAP Auto (ASV)
Humidifier: Integrated + Climate Control hose
Mask: Aeiomed Headrest (deconstructed, with homemade straps
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Re: silent nite

Post by Snoredog » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:53 pm

Silent Nite won't prevent you from mouth breathing, in fact it might make it worse. Dentists like it because they have to fit it
as opposed to a boil-n-bite like the http://www.pure-sleep.com device for $59 bucks guaranteed.

IT will NOT prevent your mouth from opening, it is a anti-snore device.

The therapy "seal" is maintained with your soft palate sealing against the base of your tongue. As the CPAP air pressure comes in from the nares it pushes the soft palate down on the base of the tongue, the air pressure is then forced behind the tongue and down your airway.

Best thing you can do to maintain that "seal" is to keep your tongue planted into the hard palate. This keeps the tongue in the proper position to maintain that seal. If air pressure is escaping your lips that soft palate-tongue seal is broken. Keeping the mandible closed will also help in maintaining that seal. It is when the mandible relaxes does the process begin towards mouth breathing.

I suggest:

1. Get a Pur-Sleep Pap Cap from Sleep Guy, it is the most comfortable chin strap you will find and it won't pull the mandible back into the TMJ joint decreasing the air gap at the back of the throat.
2. Practice keeping your tongue planted into the hard palate when you sleep and during the day if you can.
3. Control any nasal congestion with a saline only rhino rinse, we breathe through out mouth when we cannot breath through our nose. Do NOT use any OTC sprays like Afrin, continued use of these will actually increase congestion.

IF you continue to mouth breathe, consider the $59 Pure-Sleep version of the anti-snore device, it also advances the mandible like the silent nite, doesn't require Dentist fitting and extra cost, if it doesn't work you can send it back for a refund or you are only out $60 bucks. Silent Nite will probably cost you over $300.

Note: If you had surgery as a kid to have your tonsils removed and they did any trimming of your Uvula or soft palate you may not be able to maintain that "seal" even on a good day, your only option may be with a full face mask and/or taping. Best therapy is maintained via the nasal interface.

Silent Nite device:
http://www.endsnore.com/silent_nite.html

Pure-Sleep anti-snore device:
http://www.puresleep.com/

Pap-Cap by Sleep Guy (will work better than both of the above):
http://www.pur-sleep.com/products/produ ... category=6

The Pap-Cap is a ball cap without a bill, has velcro to hold the chinstrap vertical so it doesn't pull the mandible back, it is
a ridgid strap, all it does is keep the mandible from dropping (first stage of mouth breathing to begin). The pictures on
the site are not very descriptive, you have to search for them here from other users. Conventional chin straps are elastic,
they put too much pressure on the mandible for them to work making them uncomfortable.
someday science will catch up to what I'm saying...