puresleep

[jnk]

shill for PureSleep

This thread is #3 in Google when you type in PureSleep. If they want good press here, they should give every registered member of this forum a free sample. That would be good marketing.

signed: jnk, a registered cpaptalk.com internetdork.

[roster]

Wrong, internet dorks. This is my website: http://www.djspencechicago.com
If anyone has any questions about the device feel free to drop me a line. I saw an ad for it on tv, ordered it and have been using it for almost 2 months.

Fair enough. My is how did you happen to find cpaptalk.com and this particular thread?

[djguy]

Wrong, internet dorks. This is my website: http://www.djspencechicago.com
If anyone has any questions about the device feel free to drop me a line. I saw an ad for it on tv, ordered it and have been using it for almost 2 months.

Fair enough. My is how did you happen to find cpaptalk.com and this particular thread?

I Googled Puresleep to see if I could find any pro and/or con feedback/info/studies on it and this discussion forum was one of the top ones that came up. The reviews appear to be mixed. Seems to only help some mild snorers w/that soft-palate issue who can tolerate the fit and jaw re-positioning. Some of you folks talking about masks and equipment...I had no idea how intensive this could get.

[roster]

.......... The reviews appear to be mixed. Seems to only help some mild snorers w/that soft-palate issue who can tolerate the fit and jaw re-positioning. ........

Thanks DJ,

I believe that is true of all oral devices including the more expensive ones. They work for some and don't work for others. It depends on the individual anatomy and ability to tolerate the device.

I have looked into oral devices costing $3800 and $5000.Each comes with a complete before and after evaluation by a dentist skilled in sleep disorders. But it is still a crap shoot - it might work for me and it might not. Due to the expense and uncertainty of successful treatment, I am hesitant to commit.

You state the device has worked well for preventing snoring and bruxism. Have you considered that you might also have obstructive sleep apnea (osa) which is not well treated by the oral appliance?

From my readings, I believe more than 40% of the population over the age of 40 has osa at a level that should be treated. For a person who reports excessive snoring, grogginess and bruxism, the odds may be 10 to 1 that there is osa.

You may also have read here how insidious and deadly osa is. I urge you to be screened for this condition. If I had started treatment 15 years sooner a lot of my serious health problems would have been avoided.

Good luck,

[ZZZlori]

I know this is a CPAP forum but I see lts of talk about oral devices. I recently say Puresleep on tv but the nose guy who scoped my airways recommend Snoreban. Any compararive feedback from this group?

[roster]

I know this is a CPAP forum but I see lts of talk about oral devices. I recently say Puresleep on tv but the nose guy who scoped my airways recommend Snoreban. Any compararive feedback from this group?

I had not looked at SnorBan's website in a while and was delighted when I just now checked it:

We are sorry but the U.S. Federal Drug Administration has ruled that we are no longer able to supply customers, in the United States only, with the SnorBan® Anti-Snoring Mouthpiece, the inexpensive, easy solution to eliminating snoring. The FDA believes that if you had obstructive sleep apnea but didn't know it, you would be relieved of it as a side benefit of using the SnorBan® Anti-Snoring Mouthpiece to eliminate your snoring. They believe if you did this without your doctor's or dentist's help, you might be at risk of not knowing you have sleep apnea. Unfortunately the SnorBan® Anti-Snoring Mouthpiece, which is designed to relieve snoring, also reduces the severity of sleep apnea on many people like other expensive custom mandibular advancement devices made by doctors and dentists. Sleep apnea is a serious medical condition and should be diagnosed and treated by your doctor. If you are a repeat customer, you are no doubt very disappointed at your inability to resume the normal life that you have grown to appreciate now that snoring no longer afflicts you.

Because of this setback, we have found a new use for the former SnorBan® Anti-Snoring Mouthpiece. It is now the SnorBan® brand Sport Mouthpiece. One person has commented, "He likes his teeth protected when he dreams he is a boxer".

Good for them and phooey on the FDA!

[Snoredog]

I posted my skepticism a few weeks back, but I just couldn’t resist the temptation so I bought it and tried it for about 3 weeks. The device consists of an upper plate and lower plate made from acrylic which is boiled in water for 1 minutes to soften it then after 10-12 seconds you put it in your mouth and bite down hard to form a mold that conforms to your mouth so it’s almost custom made. My wife told me that my thundering snore stopped while I wore the device, but I decided to return it because of these reasons (1) it kept my mouth open during sleep so I always woke up with very dry mouth (2) The bite is custom made to conform to your teeth but the size is not so for me the unit is too big and not comfortable to keep in my mouth. I woke up every night to remove it from my mouth so that I could sleep more comfortably (3) The worst problem is that my front teeth felt loose and sore after several nights and even my gum stated to bleed when I brushed my teeth. My theory is that the mold held my teeth in place, but my jaw probably moved during sleep so in a way my teeth were loosened.

One curious thing I found out is that there is a round shaped bone on the top inside of my mouth about the size of a half a golf ball. I asked my wife and several of my coworkers and none of them is as large as mine. Since loud snoring runs in my family and my family all have this large bone, I suspect it may have something to do with the loud snoring. I did a sleep apnia test earlier this year and nothing was found.

Wayne4176@yahoo.com

that bump is probably bone if its on the mandible, called oral tori, those can be very painful when any oral device is used. They can remove those with oral surgery. Oral surgeons don't like to remove them due to bleeding but can be done, sometimes they grow back after being removed.

http://www.free-ed.net/sweethaven/MedTe ... um=fra0159

[gasp]

I posted my skepticism a few weeks back, but I just couldn’t resist the temptation so I bought it and tried it for about 3 weeks. The device consists of an upper plate and lower plate made from acrylic which is boiled in water for 1 minutes to soften it then after 10-12 seconds you put it in your mouth and bite down hard to form a mold that conforms to your mouth so it’s almost custom made. My wife told me that my thundering snore stopped while I wore the device, but I decided to return it because of these reasons (1) it kept my mouth open during sleep so I always woke up with very dry mouth (2) The bite is custom made to conform to your teeth but the size is not so for me the unit is too big and not comfortable to keep in my mouth. I woke up every night to remove it from my mouth so that I could sleep more comfortably (3) The worst problem is that my front teeth felt loose and sore after several nights and even my gum stated to bleed when I brushed my teeth. My theory is that the mold held my teeth in place, but my jaw probably moved during sleep so in a way my teeth were loosened.

One curious thing I found out is that there is a round shaped bone on the top inside of my mouth about the size of a half a golf ball. I asked my wife and several of my coworkers and none of them is as large as mine. Since loud snoring runs in my family and my family all have this large bone, I suspect it may have something to do with the loud snoring. I did a sleep apnia test earlier this year and nothing was found.

Wayne4176@yahoo.com

that bump is probably bone if its on the mandible, called oral tori, those can be very painful when any oral device is used. They can remove those with oral surgery. Oral surgeons don't like to remove them due to bleeding but can be done, sometimes they grow back after being removed.

http://www.free-ed.net/sweethaven/MedTe ... um=fra0159

Snoredog, I have a medium-large tori. The dentist that fit me for my mandibular advancement device worked around the tori as it was a customized piece. He said the tori was caused from bruxing. He described how easy it was to remove them. He didn't mention bleeding, but I can imagine that would happen. Also, anyone that has had a gum bruised by a slipped toothbrush can imagine how uncomfortable an entire lower gum ridge would hurt after surgery!

The doctor said if I continued to brux at any time in the future, it could come back, but since I don't brux anymore that it's unlikely it would return.

I also understand that bruxing can be a symptom of apnea. Now the tori exacerbates my apnea as it elevates my tongue to partially block my airway. Exercises have helped me hold the tongue in proper position and alleviated the need for surgery.

I wasn't looking forward to surgery and it's also fun to show kids during body show and tell moments It's always good for a long concentrated stare and a run to the mirror to see what theirs looks like.

[jpete1964]

I have sleep apnea, and I hate the CPAP. The hose and mask are difficult. I assume I get better sleep but not as much as when snoring so its a wash. I just ordered a pure sleep mask. I doubt it will work, but for 60.00 I'll try anything and report back when a I know more.

[Hiram]

I've been using the PureSleep device for about a month now. Took a while for me to get used to wearing it but it works for me. To respond to some of the other comments on this board:

800 Number and Customer Support: I called the number and got a live person right off the bat. They answered the questions I had with no problems. Apparently others have gotten recordings. I called during normal business hours so maybe when you call makes a difference.

FDA-approval: A close check of their website states that the device is FDA-CLEARED, not FDA-APPROVED. I'm no expert so I don't know the difference between "cleared" and "approved" (if in fact there is any).

Anybody that wants to read more about my experience with the device, including a review, can visit my blog at http://www.balance-your-health.com

Hiram

[Apnea Victim]

For $50 you can't go wrong. Why wouldn't the cpap industry talk bad about pure sleep? Keeps them in business...what are they going to say, oh yes it works great! Don't spend money on sleep tests and have insurance pay for machines and masks! Just spend $50 online!

I think if snoring is cured then apnea is too...we'll see...anyway, money back guarantee.

[roster]

Would have been a good post if it stopped before this nonsense statement:

........

I think if snoring is cured then apnea is too.......

[goose]

It was PT Barnham who said, "There's a sucker born every minute...."
This product just proves that point....

Anyone that really knows what apnea is will understand and know this product will not solve the problem. It can diminish snoring, but snoring is not apnea -- just one condition surrounding apnea. Just because you snore, doesn't mean you have apnea....so if snoring is the only issue, this product may work just fine but if you think it's going to cure/eliminate apnea, you're deluding yourself to your health's detriment......
But -- it's your life!!!!

Actually -- this thread really needs to die on the vine -- I think the meat on the carcass is falling off the bone......

cheers
goose

[jrcmlc]

I have a low level of apnea. My apnea is very noticable when my lower jaw falls back into my throat. This device would fix this issue of my lower jaw falling into my throat, which in turn, would fix the major cause of my apnea.

This is what _I_ think based on reading and experimenting with my own body to find a solution. Does anyone completely disagree with my statement? If so, please tell me why. My Cpap is a FP 604 and is only set on 7 for pressure...and although I do have a small throat and a large uvula, the apparent PRIMARY reason I have apnea is this lower jaw issue.

I found this thread doing a search for reviews of the device mentioned in this thread, I have no interest in the company or anyone else in this business, only in being able to sleep without my Cpap device.

Thanks for any input.

Joe Clark

[roster]

Joe Clark,

Good oral appliances are able to "cure" some cases of obstructive sleep apnea. The problem is how to tell if you are cured. How would you plan to tell?