See I bet you feel better now
...question again about sanitizers
Re: ...question again about sanitizers
Just because SoClean tells me something ....in this case that their device actually sanitizes or kills anything.... doesn't mean that I am going to believe them. I have NOT seen independent proof of their claims....nor do I really give enough of a crap about it to go looking.
Everyone here has a right to voice their opinion about just about anything here....and some of the people are very passionate about their opinions and they have that right.
They also have the right to be wrong and be passionate about it.
We have the right be even be delusional if we want....and the right to expect to be left to our delusions.
This thread is very close to becoming another personal pissing contest and that I just can't stomach again. We have beat this dead horse to death so many times I have lost count.
Desist with the personal crap or I will be forced to lock the thread or remove personal crap talk.
Agree to disagree and move on. Quit trying to force the other to say something they are never going to say and really mean it.
Those who know me....that means this is the only warning that will be given.
Everyone here has a right to voice their opinion about just about anything here....and some of the people are very passionate about their opinions and they have that right.
They also have the right to be wrong and be passionate about it.
We have the right be even be delusional if we want....and the right to expect to be left to our delusions.
This thread is very close to becoming another personal pissing contest and that I just can't stomach again. We have beat this dead horse to death so many times I have lost count.
Desist with the personal crap or I will be forced to lock the thread or remove personal crap talk.
Agree to disagree and move on. Quit trying to force the other to say something they are never going to say and really mean it.
Those who know me....that means this is the only warning that will be given.
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Re: ...question again about sanitizers
Meh, I'd already put mr argument where he belongs on my lists, 'nuff said.Pugsy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:45 pmDesist with the personal crap or I will be forced to lock the thread or remove personal crap talk.
Agree to disagree and move on. Quit trying to force the other to say something they are never going to say and really mean it.![]()
Those who know me....that means this is the only warning that will be given.
I'm a little slow, but I eventually do recognize when I'm wasting everybody's time.
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Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: ...question again about sanitizers
How do I block Mr wrong so I don't have to see his posts?Pugsy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:45 pmJust because SoClean tells me something ....in this case that their device actually sanitizes or kills anything.... doesn't mean that I am going to believe them. I have NOT seen independent proof of their claims....nor do I really give enough of a crap about it to go looking.
Everyone here has a right to voice their opinion about just about anything here....and some of the people are very passionate about their opinions and they have that right.
They also have the right to be wrong and be passionate about it.
We have the right be even be delusional if we want....and the right to expect to be left to our delusions.
This thread is very close to becoming another personal pissing contest and that I just can't stomach again. We have beat this dead horse to death so many times I have lost count.
Desist with the personal crap or I will be forced to lock the thread or remove personal crap talk.
Agree to disagree and move on. Quit trying to force the other to say something they are never going to say and really mean it.![]()
Those who know me....that means this is the only warning that will be given.
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Re: ...question again about sanitizers
she just asked you to knock off the personal stuff.
at any rate, to put someone on your "foe" list-
find the users name in a post. let's use me as an example. click on the users name.
this takes you to the user profile, where you will see the options- "Add friend" or "Add foe".
click on what you prefer.
you'll be asked if you wish to carry out this operation.
click yes and the deed is done.
mind you, this isn't QUITE the same as blocking someone. again, with me as an example, if someone replies to me and quotes me, you'll be able to see what i said.
good luck!
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Re: ...question again about sanitizers
I wonder what kind of things the soclean could sterilize if it were repurposed?
(Something we don't breath with or through would be best.)
Toilet brush, maybe?
Litter box?
These are two kinda gross things that would be worthwhile to sterilize?
I'm sure there are better ideas ~~~
What happens if you put dirty fruit from a grocery store in it?
Do you still have to wash it before eating?
Buy stock now!
(Something we don't breath with or through would be best.)
Toilet brush, maybe?
Litter box?
These are two kinda gross things that would be worthwhile to sterilize?
I'm sure there are better ideas ~~~
What happens if you put dirty fruit from a grocery store in it?
Do you still have to wash it before eating?
Buy stock now!
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Re: ...question again about sanitizers
Anything that you like the Dirt on that doesn't have Germs!Grace~~~ wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:08 pmI wonder what kind of things the soclean could sterilize if it were repurposed?
(Something we don't breath with or through would be best.)
Toilet brush, maybe?
Litter box?
These are two kinda gross things that would be worthwhile to sterilize?
I'm sure there are better ideas ~~~
What happens if you put dirty fruit from a grocery store in it?
Do you still have to wash it before eating?
Buy stock now!
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Re: ...question again about sanitizers
The only thing it's proven to sanitize is filter paper... So that's not really useful.Grace~~~ wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:08 pmI wonder what kind of things the soclean could sterilize if it were repurposed?
(Something we don't breath with or through would be best.)
Toilet brush, maybe?
Litter box?
These are two kinda gross things that would be worthwhile to sterilize?
I'm sure there are better ideas ~~~
What happens if you put dirty fruit from a grocery store in it?
Do you still have to wash it before eating?
Buy stock now!
Get OSCAR
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
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Re: ...question again about sanitizers
Thanks Marko2019 for the link to Courtlistener.com. This was helpful to read.Marko2019 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:24 pmMy advice is to review the facts, through the ongoing litigation, about the misinformation disseminated by SoClean: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/14 ... clean-inc/
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Re: ...question again about sanitizers
Forget the pew, you're not even in the right church.
Huge difference between "sterilize" and "sanitize and disinfect". The FDA sees these as a universe apart.
SoClean has never claimed to "sterilize", they do claim to "sterilize and disinfect". Uninformed journalists, reviewers, and users use the phrase "sterilize" - which of course SoClean will turn their head at because it makes for good advertising.
Sterilization is serious business - something that SoClean simply doesn't do. They sell hope and fear - not science.
M
Huge difference between "sterilize" and "sanitize and disinfect". The FDA sees these as a universe apart.
SoClean has never claimed to "sterilize", they do claim to "sterilize and disinfect". Uninformed journalists, reviewers, and users use the phrase "sterilize" - which of course SoClean will turn their head at because it makes for good advertising.
Sterilization is serious business - something that SoClean simply doesn't do. They sell hope and fear - not science.
M
A whole lot of investigation is ongoing before I spend a single dime.





