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[chunkyfrog]

A universal fact: it is really hard to admit that you have been screwed.
People feel shame for being gulled--which is totally wrong.
If somebody cheats you, shame on them!
I do not fault the buyer of these POS' just the sellers--
and the culture that shames those who have been "had" into sharing the blame.

[ChicagoGranny]

I suggest you Google "apnea board" to find a form that is actually helpful.

Oh, I'll help him google apnea board:

The short answer is "No" (SoClean is not needed). If you _needed_ it, I'm pretty sure the CPAP manufacturers would recommend it or sell it themselves.

The longer answer is that there have been several threads discussing the SoClean device. It uses ozone to sterilise the areas it can reach, and it doesn't clean anything, the way a brush and detergent would.

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Lots of threads here on this. IMO they are preying on people's unfounded fears. At best it does nothing useful. At worst, it damages some components of your machine.

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I agree that it's at best worthless. Just so you know mine is not just a layman's opinion, I am a microbiologist with 25 years experience with sterilization and disinfection of equipment and facilities used in the production of sterile pharmaceuticals. Unfortunately, a good friend of mine bought one without consulting me. I haven't had the heart to tell him what I've said here but I have cautioned him that he still needs to clean his reservoir, hose, mask, and cushions at intervals, since ozone does not clean, and that it will damage his headgear and possibly cushions. If this were a medical device requiring FDA approval it never would have made it to the market.

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You still need to wash your hose, mask and humidifier chamber, so you might as well save quite a bit of money and just get some dish soap

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Thanks everyone, your responses helped me decide against buying a Soclean. I had doubts about it but now I am certain.

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread ... t-So-clean

[WearyOne]

I am having problems with my check valve with the So-Clean. It keeps getting filled with water and I keep changing it. I read somewhere that you can run the Soclean without water in the hum. chamber. No other info was given. Any thoughts? BTW this is a brand new machine . The old one was replaced because of similar problems.

You should be able to just get a new check valve from the company. It's the valve in the line to your machine.
BTW, apologies for the assh*les here on this so-called forum. They put down anything and everything. I think they wish they could afford a Soclean. I have been very pleased with mine. I suggest you Google "apnea board" to find a form that is actually helpful.

Apnea Board, in IMO, is a nice forum that you and wnorm could join. Several people here, including me, are members of both, although I have found the majority of information I use from here. Both forums are helpful for me. Several people here don't mince words--to put it mildly--when they don't like something. That's just the way it is. (Not offering my opinion on that one way or the other, just stating facts.) And the folks here absolutely do not put down anything and everything. I've been on here long enough to know that.

And no, I have no wish for a piece of equipment that can't help me. I wouldn't buy it if it was $10. I have been on xPAP for over 10 years, never had ONE respiratory illness. No flu. No cold. (And I had the same machine and hose for 8 of those 10 years.) I find it very easy to wash my mask a couple of times a week and use unscented baby wipes the other nights. Wash my humidifier when needed.

I actually wrote the SoClean company, explained nicely my situation above, and asked them to tell me how SoClean could help me. That was three weeks ago and they never answered. I had no intention of buying, but I really wanted to know what they would have to say.

If you find SoClean helpful to you, I'm glad. But after reading about it here and on the Apnea Board and learning about the technique behind it, I feel it's a waste of money for me.

[wnorm]

Thank-you for your responses.
I have always been very meticulous in cleaning and maintaining all my BIPAP equipment. I even use a Gauge manometer to check my output air pressure.I have multiple health issues and am presently recovering from major surgery. The last thing I need is a worsening apnea-related condition.
Prior to buying the So-Clean, I found that no matter how often or well I cleaned the mask, hose, humification chamber, etc. , after a few weeks I started to get a bit of a moldy smell when using the BIPAP.On a side note, I also found that the heated hose could not be dried adequately after washing, despite doing all the recommended things.On the first night after washing, I would have to use a hose filled with water droplets and have a slightly water-logged night.By the morning, the hose would be dry. Although I sanitize everyday with the So-Clean. I still regularly wash the mask, head gear, hose, humid. chamber , etc very often. I also replace the hose every 3 months, the mask cushion very month, and the head gear very 3 months, and so on. There is no more musty smell when I use the So-Clean. I don't get sore throats, upper respiratory irritations, etc like I did prior to getting the So-Clean. Rude comments will not change my opinion about the unit. The company was going to repair my 3 year old machine free of charge, even though the warranty was up. Since they couldn't repair it, they sent me a brand new unit free of charge, with no charge for shipping. I have been, overall, quite impressed with the So-Clean machine. So again, if you don't have a possible solution to this issue, please keep your less than diplomatic comments to yourself.

[LSAT]

I am having problems with my check valve with the So-Clean. It keeps getting filled with water and I keep changing it. I read somewhere that you can run the Soclean without water in the hum. chamber. No other info was given. Any thoughts? BTW this is a brand new machine . The old one was replaced because of similar problems.

You should be able to just get a new check valve from the company. It's the valve in the line to your machine.
BTW, apologies for the assh*les here on this so-called forum. They put down anything and everything. I think they wish they could afford a Soclean. I have been very pleased with mine. I suggest you Google "apnea board" to find a form that is actually helpful.

If Apnea board is so great, what are you doing here?

[gregoryjames]

I am having problems with my check valve with the So-Clean. It keeps getting filled with water and I keep changing it. I read somewhere that you can run the Soclean without water in the hum. chamber. No other info was given. Any thoughts? BTW this is a brand new machine . The old one was replaced because of similar problems.

I own it, I use it - see nothing wrong with it.

In answer to your question, it does not require water in the tank from my experience. I will often take and clean my tank once a week or so thoroughly and then place it empty (and dry) for that day back on the machine before the SoClean runs (do not fill till each evening for the humidifier).

[chunkyfrog]

I already spent the 300 clams on insulin.
4 months in the coverage gap.
Worst-tasing donut hole ever.
So glad to get out of that mess!

[Goofproof]

I already spent the 300 clams on insulin.
4 months in the coverage gap.
Worst-tasing donut hole ever.
So glad to get out of that mess!

I heard Donut Holes, were GMO, Fat, and Sugar Free, however it's said they are tasteless, non-filling, and don't soak up Coffee very well. Jim

[phuqueutoo]

I am having problems with my check valve with the So-Clean. It keeps getting filled with water and I keep changing it. I read somewhere that you can run the Soclean without water in the hum. chamber. No other info was given. Any thoughts? BTW this is a brand new machine . The old one was replaced because of similar problems.

You should be able to just get a new check valve from the company. It's the valve in the line to your machine.
BTW, apologies for the assh*les here on this so-called forum. They put down anything and everything. I think they wish they could afford a Soclean. I have been very pleased with mine. I suggest you Google "apnea board" to find a form that is actually helpful.

If Apnea board is so great, what are you doing here?

I come here for the entertainment, not for information.

[Sheriff Buford]

Someone mention donuts? I'm in!!

Sheriff

[chunkyfrog]

Just a typo, but worst tasting/worst "tasing";
I felt a bit like I'd been tased. (tazed?)

[Goofproof]

I am having problems with my check valve with the So-Clean. It keeps getting filled with water and I keep changing it. I read somewhere that you can run the Soclean without water in the hum. chamber. No other info was given. Any thoughts? BTW this is a brand new machine . The old one was replaced because of similar problems.

You should be able to just get a new check valve from the company. It's the valve in the line to your machine.
BTW, apologies for the assh*les here on this so-called forum. They put down anything and everything. I think they wish they could afford a Soclean. I have been very pleased with mine. I suggest you Google "apnea board" to find a form that is actually helpful.

If Apnea board is so great, what are you doing here?

I come here for the entertainment, not for information.

The why just take, add some, so far you are just a minor troll. Get and "A" Game Jim

[Nellz_1013]

This is a new machine sent to me free of charge because the old one had issues with the check valve. Please I appreciate constructive comments. Unless you can offer me polite and helpful answers please do not respond. Thank-you.

It's always amusing when people who are faced with reality just stick their fingers in their ears and go LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

I guess the earth is flat too huh? Seriously having an opinion is one thing but attacking, harrassing and teasing someone because they dont agree with you, nor take your "expert info" as gospel is just immature and one of the big problems in the country. You dont have to agree or even like someones opinion but that doesnt give you the green light for this kind of treatment. They requested only constructive (which means helpful btw) criticism.... And instead was taunted and teased..... Jeez... Joined a forum because I can't stand bullies.... Come on people.... You're better than this.... And on behalf of these others to theperson who asked the initial question... I'm truly sorry! God bless everyone here.

[ChicagoGranny]

Join to express deep concern in a thread with no activity in over two years? A thread that has been long forgotten by all parties?

[Pugsy]

Join to express deep concern in a thread with no activity in over two years? A thread that has been long forgotten by all parties?

No...just a visit from a member of the polite police posse to chastise us for not being nice. Must be their life's mission or something.
And by strange coincidence bring the device back to the forefront of any discussions. Makes a person wonder if the polite police posse members have a vested interest in something more than just being polite.

I always chuckle when I see people bashing someone for not being nice and I remember SnoreDog....people that think some of us are harsh today...they don't know what harsh is.